

Stephan Livera Podcast
Stephan Livera
Join Stephan as he interviews the sharpest economic and technical minds in Bitcoin & Austrian Economics to help you understand how money is changing and evolving. Leading names in the world of Bitcoin join the show to share their insights, whether they are developers, CEOs, economists, authors, analysts and more.
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Aug 28, 2019 • 58min
SLP103 Charles Guillemet - Hardware Wallet Security and Hacking at Donjon Ledger
Charles Guillemet, Chief Security Officer of Ledger, and also leading Ledger Donjon, joins me to talk about Bitcoin hardware wallet hacking. We talk about the attacks possible, the cost of these attacks, and defence against these attacks. You won’t want to miss this episode!
Charles and Donjon Ledger links:
Charles Twitter: https://twitter.com/P3b7_
Ledger Donjon Twitter: https://twitter.com/DonjonLedger
Ledger Donjon github: https://ledger-donjon.github.io/
SLP Hardware Wallet Interview Series:
https://stephanlivera.com/slp-hardware-wallet-interview-series/
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 26, 2019 • 1h 3min
SLP102 Jimmy Song & Alex Gladstein - The Little Bitcoin Book
Jimmy Song (Bitcoin educator, entrepreneur and developer) and Alex Gladstein (CSO of Human Rights Foundation) join me in this episode to talk about their fantastic new book, The Little Bitcoin Book. This is the perfect short book to give your precoiner friends! It has succinct explanations on why bitcoin is important. Listen to this episode to learn more about how this book came together, what the authors are hoping to achieve, and if you like it - then make sure you buy copies of the book to give to your friends and family.
Links:
The Little Bitcoin Book website: http://littlebitcoinbook.com/
The Little Bitcoin Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/Little-Bitcoin-Book-Matters-Finances-ebook/dp/B07W957N7T/
Alex Gladstein’s The Moral Case for Lightning: https://medium.com/@alexgladstein/the-moral-case-for-lightning-a-global-private-payment-network-9b232019a75b
Jimmy Song Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimmysong
Alex Gladstein Twitter: https://twitter.com/gladstein
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 24, 2019 • 1h 1min
SLP101 Rodolfo Novak - Coldcard by Coinkite
Rodolfo Novak (CEO CoinKite) rejoins me in this episode to talk about the Coldcard from Coinkite. We talk about:
Why he made the Coldcard
Basic features of the Coldcard
Bitcoiner support for the Coldcard
Multi signature with Coldcard
WalletsRecovery.org
Rodolfo Novak and Coldcard links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/nvk
Coinkite website: https://coinkite.com/ (CODE: LIVERA for 5% off)
Coldcard documentation: https://coldcardwallet.com/docs/
Coldcard telegram chat: https://t.me/coldcard
Wallets Recovery site: https://walletsrecovery.org/
Matt Odell (TFTC) Coldcard walkthrough video: https://youtu.be/sM2uhyROpAQ
SLP Hardware Wallet Interview Series:
https://stephanlivera.com/slp-hardware-wallet-interview-series/
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Manning Publications (code: LIVERA for 40% off): http://mng.bz/07rW
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2

Aug 19, 2019 • 1h 7min
SLP100 Pavol Rusnak (Stick) - Trezor One and Model T by SatoshiLabs
Pavol Rusnak aka Stick, CTO of SatoshiLabs (the company behind Trezor) joins me in this episode to talk about his journey creating the world’s first bitcoin hardware wallet. We talk about:
Making the world’s first bitcoin hardware wallet
SLIP39 and Shamir’s secret sharing
Multi signature support
Airgapping
Privacy
Bitcoin-only firmware
FIDO2 authentication
Pavol Rusnak and Trezor links:
Pavol’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/pavolrusnak
Trezor website: https://trezor.io/ (PROMO CODE: SLP100 for discount, valid for one week)
Trezor Twitter: https://twitter.com/trezor
Trezor Github: https://github.com/trezor
SLIP 39 github: https://github.com/satoshilabs/slips/blob/master/slip-0039.md
Trezor article: Is your passphrase strong enough?: https://blog.trezor.io/is-your-passphrase-strong-enough-d687f44c63af
Coldbit article re: BIP39 passphrase length: https://coldbit.com/can-bip-39-passphrase-be-cracked/
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Manning Publications (code: LIVERA for 40% off): http://mng.bz/07rW
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 15, 2019 • 1h 17min
SLP99 Andrew Chow - Hardware Wallets and Bitcoin Core with HWI and PSBT
Andrew Chow, Bitcoin Core developer at Blockstream joins me in this episode to talk about his work on HWI - Hardware Wallet Interface and PSBT - Partially Signed Bitcoin Transactions. We discuss the benefits of PSBT and Hardware Wallet Interface in making Bitcoin’s user interface better for users who want to do multi sig or interact with hardware wallets using Bitcoin Core.
We talk:
Andrew’s background
Why PSBT (Partially Signed Bitcoin Transactions) is needed
HWI - Hardware Wallet Interface
Output descriptors
Derivation paths
Use of PSBT for CoinJoining and Multi-Sig
Where HWI is going from here
Andrew Chow Links and other links discussed in episode:
Andrew Chow Twitter: https://twitter.com/achow101
Andrew’s Stack Exchange account: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/users/48884/andrew-chow
Andrew Chow Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/achow101
Bitcoin-Core HWI github link: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/HWI
PSBT: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/psbt.md
Stack Exchange - Pieter Wuille answer on output descriptors: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/89281
Output descriptors link: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/descriptors.md
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Manning Publications (code: LIVERA for 40% off): http://mng.bz/07rW
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 12, 2019 • 1h 7min
SLP98 Rusty Russell and Joe Netti - Can Lightning Network Scale to a Million Channels?
So Bitcoin’s Lightning Network exists and works today. Can it scale up to a million channels? Rusty Russell (Blockstream Elements Project, working on c-lightning and the Lightning Spec) and Joe Netti (recently interned at Blockstream) join me to talk about their work on the Million Channels Project. We talk about:
Why the Project was started
Set up
Regtest and Gossip
Routing
Optimisations needed
An update on c-lightning
Links:
Million Channel Blockstream results post: https://eng.blockstream.com/2019/06/24/letting-channels-bloom/
Million Channels Project Github: https://github.com/rustyrussell/million-channels-project
Million Channel Project proposal: https://medium.com/@rusty_lightning/proposal-the-million-channel-lightning-project-d8c34666d6d4
Rusty links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rusty_twit
Github: https://github.com/rustyrussell
Prior appearance SLP23: https://stephanlivera.com/episode/23/
Joe Netti links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoeNetti
GitHub: https://github.com/nettijoe96
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Breez Tech: http://breez.technology
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

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Aug 8, 2019 • 1h 53min
SLP97 Michael Flaxman - Every Bitcoin Hardware Wallet Sucks
Michael Flaxman, Bitcoin Educator and Developer joins me in this episode (part of the SLP Hardware Wallet Interview series) to talk about the current state of Bitcoin Hardware Wallets. This episode is a must listen to learn the differences between some of the current popular Hardware Wallets, and give you a framework on how to think about Hardware Wallet security. This will help you think more clearly about how to secure your own bitcoins.
We talk:
The current state of hardware wallets
Multi signature is additive
Why you should use Testnet
Secure elements
PSBT
Backups
Shamir’s secret sharing
Michael Flaxman links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mflaxman
Bitcoin Hardware Wallet Comparison site: https://bitcoin-hardware-wallet.github.io/
Personal website: https://www.michaelflaxman.com/
Thread on Bitcoin HW Wallets: https://twitter.com/mflaxman/status/1146813021232226306
SLP Hardware Wallet Series link: https://stephanlivera.com/slp-hardware-wallet-interview-series/
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Manning Publications: http://mng.bz/07rW
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 6, 2019 • 1h 2min
SLP96 Max Hillebrand - Bitcoin Hardware Wallets for Newbies
Max Hillebrand, Bitcoin educator and World Crypto Net broadcaster joins me in this newbie episode to target about good practices with Hardware wallets and what we should think about. We talk:
Why you should not leave your bitcoins on an exchange
How to think about Hardware Wallets
Recommended practices with Hardware wallets and self custody
Next steps for learning
Max Hillebrand links
Twitter: https://twitter.com/HillebrandMax
World Crypto Net: https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCryptoNetwork
Max’s Personal website: https://towardsliberty.com/
HODL Hotline (bitcoin consulting from Max): https://hodlhotline.com/
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Aug 4, 2019 • 53min
SLP95 Aleks Svetski - Clashing Visions
Aleks Svetski (CEO and co-founder Amber) rejoins me in this episode to talk about the clash of visions:
Trading or HODLing
Buying with a lump sum or DCA - Dollar Cost Averaging
Mindsets around DCA
Libra vs USD vs Bitcoin
Belief systems
Aleks and Amber links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alekssvetski
Amber: https://amber.app
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me

Jul 31, 2019 • 1h 3min
SLP94 Roy Sheinfeld - Lightning Network Services for the Masses
Roy Sheinfeld, CEO of Breez Technology joins me to talk about his view of Bitcoin’s Lightning Network. We touch on a number of topics:
Roy’s background in Bitcoin
Why he’s excited about Lightning Network and what problems it can solve
How the Lightning Network will evolve with Lightning Service Providers
What he’s doing with Breez Tech and the Breez app
Neutrino filtering
Roy Sheinfeld links:
Breez Tech Twitter: https://twitter.com/Breez_Tech
Breez Technology: https://breez.technology/
Breez Telegram: https://t.me/breez_lightning
Roy’s article “Lightning at the end of the Tunnel” https://medium.com/breez-technology/lightning-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel-overcoming-bitcoins-ux-challenges-5738171c759e
Sponsor links:
Kraken: http://www.kraken.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=stephanlivera
Unchained Capital: https://www.unchained-capital.com/?utm_source=Stephan%20Livera&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=Affiliate
Manning Publications (use code: LIVERA for 40% off all items): https://www.manning.com/
Stephan Livera links:
Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Show notes and website: https://stephanlivera.com/
Subscribe to the podcast: https://anchor.fm/stephan-livera/
Rate and Review the podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2
Orange Coin Good and other Merchandise @ Layer One BTC Store: https://layeronebtc.com/collections/stephan-livera-podcast
Email contact: stephanlivera@pm.me


