

Stephan Livera Podcast
Stephan Livera
Join Stephan as he interviews the sharpest economic and technical minds in Bitcoin & Austrian Economics to help you understand how money is changing and evolving. Leading names in the world of Bitcoin join the show to share their insights, whether they are developers, CEOs, economists, authors, analysts and more.
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May 16, 2020 • 1h 22min
SLP173 Bitstein – Nakamoto Institute Bitcoin Literature Review
Bitstein aka Michael Goldstein, President of the Nakamoto Institute and co-host of Noded Bitcoin Podcast rejoins me on the show to talk about some Bitcoin literature.
Bitstein links:
Twitter @bitstein
Nakamoto Institute website
Noded
Literature:
The Cyphernomicon
Crypto Anarchy and Virtual Communities
Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority
Formalizing and Securing Relationships on Public Networks
Politics vs Technology
Previous episodes:
SLP111 Bitstein – Satoshi Nakamoto Institute Bitcoin Crash Course
SLP6 – Fiat Money As ‘Fad Diet’ with Bitstein
Sponsors:
Kraken
Cyphersafe
SwanBitcoin.com
Unchained Capital
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
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May 10, 2020 • 1h 8min
SLP172 Nicolas Dorier & Kukks – P2EP Comes To BTCPay Server
Nicolas Dorier and Mr Kukks rejoin me on the show to talk about updates with BTCPay Server, such as P2EP (Pay to End point), which will assist bitcoin accepting merchants to PayJoin with customers, adding to the privacy on Bitcoin.
Links:
Nicolas Dorier: https://twitter.com/nicolasdorier
MrKukks: https://twitter.com/mrkukks
BTCPay blog: https://blog.btcpayserver.org/btcpay-server-1-0-4-0/
BTCPay twitter: https://twitter.com/btcpayserver
BTCPay PayJoin guide: https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver-doc/blob/master/Payjoin.md
BTCPay PayJoin spec: https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver-doc/blob/master/Payjoin-spec.md
LaurentMT Payjoin discussion: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/LaurentMT/c38794ef6a62b2f8c76d7f694a3e7777/raw/cde5620d6ab59a8202af504e1650aef1ff907730/
Earlier appearances:
Nicolas: http://stephanlivera.com/48
Kukks: http://stephanlivera.com/91
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Coinfloor.co.uk
SwanBitcoin.com
Unchained Capital
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

May 5, 2020 • 1h 36min
SLP171 PlanB & Saifedean Ammous – Bitcoin S2FX, S2F, and Evolution From Collectible to Financial Asset
Bitcoin experts PlanB and Saifedean discuss Bitcoin's transition from a collectible to a financial asset, including debates on stock-to-flow modeling, phase transitions, and societal implications. They explore the precision of forecasting market behavior, Bitcoin's evolution as an institutional-grade asset, and the importance of cointegration in price analysis.

May 4, 2020 • 1h 6min
SLP170 Yuri de Gaia - Bitcoin’s Two Economies & Citadels
Yuri de Gaia, Partner at L2B Global (Reserve Bitcoin OTC, Liquiditi, Moontower) joins me to talk about Bitcoin’s two economies: the regulated compliant world, and the defiant crypto-anarchist world.
How they will grow
Do they support each other
Citadels, Monarchy, and Anarcho-capitalism
OTC Trading
Liquid
Moontower
Yuri Links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Y_deGaia
Personal blog: https://degaia.co/
L2B Global (company) https://l2b.global
Bitcoin Reserve (HNWI brokerage) https://bitcoinreserve.com
The Bitcoin Reserve Journal (blog) https://journal.bitcoinreserve.com
Moontower (retail) https://moontower.co/
Liquiditi.io (Liquid asset swap tool) https://liquiditi.io/
Article: https://degaia.co/bitcoins-two-economies/
Other relevant episodes:
SLP141 American HODL
SLP161 Titus Gebel - Bitcoin Citadels as Free Private Cities
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Subscribe on YouTube
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

Apr 27, 2020 • 1h 13min
SLP169 Jeff Deist - Bitcoin & Acting Locally
Jeff Deist, President of the Mises Institute, talks about Bitcoin, Central Banking, Corona virus, libertarianism, and acting locally. They discuss the influence of Bitcoin on society, shifting perspectives on Bitcoin within the Mises Institute, regulatory arbitrage, the rise of UBI and MMT, negative returns on sovereign bonds, political activism, and the importance of sound money and Bitcoin.

Apr 24, 2020 • 1h 12min
SLP168 Lisa Neigut - Lightning Network Channel Accounting and Dual Funded Channels
Lisa Neigut of Blockstream joins me to talk about Lightning Network Channels, c-lightning, and Dual Funded Channels. We discuss:
How she got into Lightning development
How Lightning Channels work
How they could be accounted for in c-lightning
Dual Funding of Channels
PoDLE
Hardware wallet funding of lightning channels
Lisa Neigut links:
Twitter: @niftynei
C-lightning thread: https://twitter.com/clightningcomit/status/1212810910731063297
C-lightning github: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/niftynei/
Related episodes:
SLP134 Rusty Russell - Lightning Multi Part Payments
SLP59 Christian Decker - Lightning Channel Factories
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
CypherWheel by CypherSafe
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

Apr 21, 2020 • 1h 17min
SLP167 Chris Belcher - What’s The Problem With Bitcoin Surveillance?
Chris Belcher rejoins me on the show to talk about Bitcoin Surveillance companies, and what risks they present to Bitcoin. We also talk about JoinMarket fidelity bonds.
Chain surveillance techniques
Downsides for Bitcoin
What to do about it
“Just Use Monero” is insufficient
PayJoin & P2EP
Fidelity Bonds - how they work
Benefits and costs
Chris Belcher Links:
Joinmarket donation page: https://bitcoinprivacy.me/joinmarket-donations
Fidelity bond doc: https://gist.github.com/chris-belcher/18ea0e6acdb885a2bfbdee43dcd6b5af
Financial mathematics of fidelity bonds: https://gist.github.com/chris-belcher/87ebbcbb639686057a389acb9ab3e25b
Twitter: @chris_belcher_
Reddit: /u/belcher_
Email: belcher@riseup.net
Github: github.com/chris-belcher/
P2P trading exchanges list: https://github.com/cointastical/P2P-Trading-Exchanges/
Other relevant episodes:
SLP165 Rafael Yakobi Should CoinJoin users be flagged? Is Privacy Illegal?
SLP149 WAXWING – Is Consumerism At Odds With Privacy in Bitcoin? JoinMarket, PayJoin, Snicker
SLP58 Chris Belcher – Defending Bitcoin Privacy
SLP150 Samorai Wallet - Make Every Bitcoin Spend a CoinJoin
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

Apr 15, 2020 • 1h 3min
SLP166 Max Keidun - P2P Bitcoin Trading No KYC, coming to your smartphone powered by Hodl Hodl
Max Keidun, CEO of Hodl Hodl rejoins me on the show to talk about some exciting updates with Hodl Hodl:
UX/UI update to Hodl Hodl website interface
How the platform protects against scammers
Local Trader feature in BlueWallet
Stacking Bitcoins p2p, No KYC, directly into your Coldcard
Baltic Honeybadger 2020 Update
Max Keidun & Hodl Hodl links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/keidunm
Website: https://hodlhodl.com/ (Code:LIVERA)
Hodl Hodl twitter: https://twitter.com/hodlhodl
Previous episode:
SLP56 Max Keidun and Roman Snitko
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

Apr 11, 2020 • 1h 9min
SLP165 Rafael Yakobi - Should Coinjoin users be flagged? Is Privacy Illegal?
Rafael Yakobi, Managing Attorney at The Crypto Lawyers joins me to talk about privacy in Bitcoin and the law. We talk about:
Financial surveillance laws
Obligations on bitcoin companies
How it works in practice
Blockchain surveillance companies
Links:
Twitter: @CACryptoLawyer
The Crypto Lawyers: www.thecryptolawyers.com
Bitcoin Magazine article: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-fungibility-mixing-and-the-legal-limits-on-maintaining-privacy
Other links:
Bitcoin wiki transaction surveillance company by Chris Belcher
6102 Bitcoin coinjoin infographics:
1. https://6102bitcoin.com/001_what_is_bitcoin_taint/
2. https://6102bitcoin.com/002_are_chain_analysis_heuristics_reliable/
3. https://6102bitcoin.com/003_blacklisting_distance_proximity/
Other relevant interviews:
SLP160 BTCxZelko - Protect your Bitcoin Privacy with Ronin Dojo
SLP150 Samourai Wallet
SLP149 Waxwing (JoinMarket, PayJoin, SNICKER)
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
CypherWheel by CypherSafe
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera

Apr 7, 2020 • 59min
SLP164 Gleb Naumenko - erlay Bitcoin transaction relay
Gleb Naumenko of Chaincode Labs joins me in this episode to talk about erlay. We talk about:
How he got into bitcoin development
Transaction relay in Bitcoin
Attacks at the network level
Erlay
Costs and Benefits
Bitcoin and lightning development more broadly
Gleb Naumenko:
Twitter: @tomatodread
Github account: https://github.com/naumenkogs
BIP330: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0330.mediawiki
Erlay Paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.10518.pdf
Sponsor links:
Kraken
Unchained Capital
SwanBitcoin
Stephan Livera links:
Show notes and website
Follow me on twitter @stephanlivera
Subscribe to the podcast
Patreon @stephanlivera


