Between Two Ravens: A Norse Mythology Podcast

David Alexander and Shawn Gaich
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May 6, 2022 • 45min

S1E17: Grímnismál (Part 1)

This week is part 1 of our episode on the Poetic Edda poem, Grímnismál . We discuss the prologue, featuring two princes, Agnar and Geirroth. Agnar gains the favor of the goddess Frigg and Geirroth is favored by Frigg's husband Odin.Odin is up to his usual shenanigans and this time it catches up to him. We discuss the similarities with other world mythologies and Shawn brings in some history about the succession of kings. The poetic portion of Grimnismal features Odin revealing his disguise as old man Grimnir. He reveals his wealth of knowledge about the many realms and halls of the Gods, making this an important source for lore needed to #KnowYourKennings.Next episode we will pick up with Stanza 21 and complete the dramatic conclusion of the poem Grimnismal.If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Sources:  Read a version of Grimnismal online: https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe06.htm And a version with Old Norse: http://www.voluspa.org/grimnismal.htm  Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfFChildren of Ash and Elm. History Primer. https://amzn.to/3FiS6uLMoore - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: https://amzn.to/3y1ofFD
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Apr 29, 2022 • 58min

S1E16: Thor Travels to Geirrod's Court

In Episode 16 we discuss Thor's journey to Geirrod's Court. Thor once again bailing Loki out of situations where Loki's mouth starts something he can't finish. Shawn and David explore the symbols present in the myth and introduce Thor's half-brother Vidar.We compare Snori Sturluson's Prose Edda version of the myth to the Skaldic Poem Thorsdrapa by Eilífr Gudrúnarson, which is known for it's "creative kennings and labyrinthine complexity." David gives some more psychology depth on how to develop the primary archetypes in the psyche and how they relate to Thor's development through his hero's journey.David also asks randomly about Shawn's workout schedule.If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Sources: Prose Edda - Skaldskaparmal. Read free online (see chapter XVIII for Thorsdrapa): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre05.htmProse Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznMoore - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: https://amzn.to/3y1ofFD Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Apr 22, 2022 • 56min

S1E15: Thor Tricks a Dwarf

In this episode, we discuss the poem, Alvíssmál, which is a story of how an ugly dwarf named Alviss enters Thor's hall to make the claim that Thor's daughter had agreed to marry him. Thor thinks the dwarf is ugly and not worthy of the match to a goddess.Needless to say the whole ordeal did not go well for Alviss. Shawn and David also completely forget to discuss how the poem obviously influenced J.R.R. Tolkien write a certain scene from "The Hobbit" because they were too excited to talk about the potential pagan roots of Easter along with the newly released "Thor: Love and Thunder" teaser trailer.If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free.https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Podcast Website: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1901373Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books Mentioned:Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfFSupport the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Apr 15, 2022 • 48min

S1E14: Thor, The Bride to Be

In this episode, we discuss the story of how Thor gets his hammer stolen and how the Aesir's plan to retrieve it results in Thor marrying the giant, Thrym. As told in the Poetic Edda poem, Thrymskviða. A poem which reads like a comedy and features many of the Aesir, primarily Thor, Loki, Freya, Heimdall, with Odin weirdly being absent.Shawn and David discuss the similarities of Thor sacrificing who he is (the stereotypical "man" who wouldn't be reduced to wearing a dress) to Odin Sacrificing destroying himself via hanging to learn the runes. We also further discuss Thor's binge eating/drinking, Freya, the goddess, Var.  If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books Mentioned: Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfFSupport the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Apr 8, 2022 • 54min

S1E13: Thor the Fisherman

In Season 1 Episode 13, we present the story of Thor the Fisherman. It is one of the few myths well represented in both Prose Edda (Gylfaginning chapter 48) and in the Poetic Edda - Hymiskviða. There is a lot of interesting nuance to the differences between these versions and the poem is packed with kennings. We discuss our personal theories on the mythology and psychology of this story, and gain some more understanding of the Norse Mythological figures Aegir, Njord, Tjalfi, Tyr, and Loki.Outro - Die Forelle by Franz Schubert  If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznProse Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; Chapter XLVIII): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htmPoetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF  Norse Mythology – A guide to Gods, Heros, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEB Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Apr 1, 2022 • 47min

S1E12: Thor's Adventure to Utgard (Part 2)

In Season 1 Episode 12, we finish presenting the story of Thor’s Adventure with Utgarda-Loki. We analyze what the story means about Thor and talk more about the archetype of the trickster god. David explains Freudian defense mechanisms and how once you understand them, you see them everywhere.Bonus: Shawn and David do voice acting and we discuss the Rooster’s of the Apocalypse.Fact Checking: As far as we know, Tjalfi is a human. His father is the husbandman of the farm Thor visits. If he is in fact Tjalfi’s real father…Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznProse Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; we start at Chapter XLIV): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm  Norse Mythology – A guide to Gods, Heros, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEBIf you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Mar 25, 2022 • 45min

S1E11: Thor's Adventure to Utgard (Part 1)

In Season 1 Episode 11, Shawn and David continue with the Adventures of Thor. Shawn explains what shows are hot on Netflix; David explains Dank Memes. We introduce Loki, the trickster god, and follow Thor on his mission to smash all the giants. David talks about the idea of being possessed by an archetype and what is the “Hero Archetype”? Water Jar Boy makes a return. Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcastFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Check out the blog for more of David’s thoughts on Archetypes: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.comBooks mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznProse Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; we start at Chapter XLIV): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htmJoseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEBNeil Gaiman - Norse Mythology: https://amzn.to/3if50zkIf you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 18, 2022 • 51min

S1E10: Thor v Hrungnir

In Season 1 Episode 10, Shawn and David discuss the myth of Thor's battle with the strongest of all giants, Hrungnir. Is it all a secret plot by Odin to teach his son Thor a lesson?David discusses potential meanings of Hrungnir's 3 pointed heart and talks more about Archetypes and the hero's journey. Bonus myth at the end of the episode!Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznProse Edda - Skaldskaparmal (Free translation; see Chapter XVII): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre05.htmJoseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEBNeil Gaiman - Norse Mythology: https://amzn.to/3if50zkMan and His Symbols by Carl Jung: https://amzn.to/3vx59WOAsatru for Beginners by Mathias Nordvig: https://amzn.to/3JKjliWOther books we have discussed: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/reading-list/If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)
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Mar 11, 2022 • 1h

S1E9: The Runes (Part 2)

In Season 1 Episode 9 Shawn and David take a deeper dive into the runes. How would a person go about learning the runes? What it means to say runes have "power"?Runes Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ZnolNzsHpG29e1m6iJQLI?si=nyyoaP0JRxW62xTWz4mPCQPodcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.David's recommended reading about the runes:Diana Paxson - Taking Up the Runes: https://amzn.to/34rqkywEdred Thorsson - Futhark: https://amzn.to/3hW8w1BKatie Gerrard - Odin's Gateway: https://amzn.to/3hYkkjLA couple other psychology books David mentioned:Gottman - Raising an Emotionally Intelligent Children: https://amzn.to/3tLw0vLNeufeld & Mate - Hold on to your Kids: https://amzn.to/3CvTkS6Other books we have discussed: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/reading-list/Check out the WordPress blog to see when David posts an article about the runes. He just finished the 3 part series on Shamanism.If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)\
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Mar 4, 2022 • 44min

S1E8: Thor and the Ferryman

The hosts delve into the playful insults of Hárbarðsljóð, exploring verbal sparring reminiscent of rap battles. They debate whether Harbard is Odin or Loki and examine the psychological tactics behind Odin's jabs at Thor. With a humorous take, they connect ancient flyting to modern playground disses and cultural contexts. The discussion highlights the contrast between Thor's brute strength and Odin's cunning, all while framing the tale as an entertaining parody of insults. Expect insights into Norse mythology and the art of persuasion!

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