

Edge of the Couch
Jordan Pickell and Alison McCleary
Two good friends and experienced therapists explore the topics that were either shied away from or dismissed because they were too big, too nuanced, too risky, or too uncomfortable to address in school or even in supervision. We want to inspire and encourage therapists to think more deeply, show up more fully, and find humour and self-compassion in navigating the messier parts of being a therapist.
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Nov 5, 2025 • 33min
Working with Clients who Thrive on Drama
Explore the intriguing world of clients who thrive on drama. Discover how these individuals often use storytelling and other people's narratives to sidestep their own issues. Learn to distinguish between genuine crises and patterned drama that creates emotional chaos. Dive into the gendered dynamics of gossip and how they fuel connections. Gain practical skills like delaying reactions to emotional texts and recognizing patterns across relationships. Finally, challenge misconceptions about passionate relationships and the role of healthy boundaries.

Oct 29, 2025 • 34min
Is Therapy a Cult?
We're taking the couch on the road! Join us between May 9th and May 24th, we'll be heading to 8 Canadian cities for a LIVE episode recording and a chance to connect with other therapists in your area. Space is limited, so snag your ticket before it's too late! For more information, visit us on Instagram @edgeofthecouchpod. We hope to see you there! Join us on Patreon for bonus content at www.patreon.com/edgeofthecouch, share your thoughts and questions via DM on Instagram, or email us at connect@edgeofthecouch.com.We have partnered with Janeapp, our favourite all-in-one practice management software. You can learn more at Jane.app/mentalhealth. Or, if you are ready to get started, mention Edge of the Couch in the note during sign-up for a free one-month grace period on your new account.Alison McClearywww.woodstovewellness.caJordan Pickellwww.jordanpickellcounselling.ca@jordanpickellcounselling on InstagramEdge of the Couchwww.edgeofthecouch.com@edgeofthecouchpod on Instagram

Oct 22, 2025 • 57min
Therapy Beyond Individual Work
A cross-Canada live tour and practice tools for therapists are announced. Licensing differences and ethical boundaries for relationship and family work are explored. Non-romantic dyads, inviting partners into individual sessions, and transitions between formats are discussed. Varieties of group work, community models, and the need for training and supervision when expanding offerings are highlighted.

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Oct 15, 2025 • 37min
Self-Awareness Can Become Its Own Problem
They explore how too much self-awareness can harden into self-criticism, intellectualizing, and paralysis. They talk about when insight stalls action and how over-monitoring the body or personality labels can create suffering. They offer metaphors for letting thoughts float and emphasize shifting from rumination into real-world connection and change.

Oct 8, 2025 • 54min
Oversaturation Part 2: Fit and Rejecting Competition
The discussion dives deep into how the mental health field addresses quality versus quantity among therapists. The hosts challenge the misconception that bad therapists naturally get pushed out, highlighting how reputation and marketing can distort referrals. They also explore what 'fit' truly means in therapy, factoring in diversity and identity. The conversation critiques therapists entering the field as a backup plan and examines the risks posed by unregulated life coaches. Ultimately, they advocate for community and peer consultation to foster accountability and improve quality.

Oct 1, 2025 • 39min
Oversaturation: Graduate Programs and the Importance of Gatekeeping
The hosts delve into the pressing issue of therapist oversaturation and distinguish between quantity and quality in the field. They tackle the failures in training programs and emphasize the critical role of meaningful supervision. Concerns about surface-level oversight and the need for ongoing professional development are discussed. The conversation also highlights the public's perception of a shortage of qualified therapists, while exploring the need for gatekeeping that ensures both accessibility and high standards. Their candid commentary challenges the readiness of some graduates to practice.

Jun 4, 2025 • 50min
Imposter Syndrome Revisited
The conversation revisits the ever-relevant topic of imposter syndrome, discussing how feelings of self-doubt can persist even in skilled professionals. The hosts share personal experiences and the evolving nature of these emotions as they tackle new challenges. They highlight the importance of community support in therapy and examine the role of privilege in shaping one’s sense of belonging. The episode culminates with reflections on their podcasting journey and future plans, emphasizing the ongoing dialogue surrounding mental health and professional growth.

May 28, 2025 • 47min
Examining the "Victim Mentality"
The hosts delve into the complexities of 'victim mentality,' highlighting its misuse to undermine marginalized voices. They differentiate between genuine victimhood and defensive behaviors stemming from unprocessed trauma. Listeners learn how subtle triggers can unleash profound reactions tied to grief. The conversation emphasizes empathy in therapy while cautioning against mislabeling clients. Finally, they discuss the responsibilities of therapists in recognizing biases and ensuring a supportive, reflective approach to client care.

May 21, 2025 • 49min
Who is The Villain?
Ever wondered what it’s like to be the villain in someone else’s story? The podcast dives into the tricky dynamics between therapists and clients, exploring how therapists can be seen as villains. It discusses the complexities of accountability, self-reflection, and the emotional responses that arise in therapy. Listeners will discover the importance of empathy and communication while navigating vulnerabilities. The conversation encourages a nuanced understanding of human relationships, highlighting how labeling someone a villain oversimplifies their story.

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May 14, 2025 • 47min
Working "Harder" Than Your Client
The podcast dives into the belief that therapists shouldn't work harder than their clients. The hosts challenge this notion, discussing how privilege and trauma shape effort in therapy. They also explore the complexities of client engagement and the often misunderstood dynamics of therapeutic relationships. Silence's role in fostering deeper conversations is highlighted, alongside the need for therapists to adapt their approaches. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of meeting clients where they are emotionally while redefining the therapist-client dynamic.


