

Fitness Confidential
Vinnie Tortorich
Fitness and weight loss expert Vinnie Tortorich, the author of the best-selling book "Fitness Confidential", dispels the widespread mistaken beliefs regarding weight loss and exercise and teaches us how to lose weight, get fit and reclaim our lives. Using his 35 years of experience in the fitness and weight loss industry in Hollywood combined with an absolute commitment to good health, Vinnie has helped hundreds of thousands of people around the world lose hundreds of thousands of unhealthy pounds in an easy and sustainable way. His listeners love him for his fearless humor, tireless honesty, extraordinary nose for BS, and simple message. Join Vinnie and his inspiring guests - doctors, scientists. researchers, journalists, farmers, athletes, and more - to hear the latest scientific discoveries and unravel the myths that have been hampering our health. Laugh your way to health and fitness with Fitness Confidential and Vinnie Tortorich.
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Aug 5, 2022 • 45min
A Different Kind of Motivation - Episode 2161
Episode 2161 - This Friday's show is a special one where Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss a different kind of motivation, ridiculous "bulletproof" claims, Vinnie's recent experience at a steakhouse, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/08/different-kind-motivation-episode-2161 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods A DIFFERENT KIND OF MOTIVATION Vinnie and Anna start the show with a little chat centered around really good scotch. (2:40) But then Vinnie brings up a documentary he recently watched about Shania Twain. (9:39) He's really impressed with her story as she has overcome a lot of challenges. This brings up a different kind of motivation and inspiration. He also comments on her attitude and what he admires about it. Vinnie and Anna then switch to talking about ridiculous advertised claims made by "bulletproof" creator Dave Asprey. (21:40) THE STEAKHOUSE EXPERIENCE Vinnie goes on to tell the story of his experience at a steakhouse. (32:15) He shares his thoughts on the experience and it was also a reminder of how food becomes a comfort. Anna mentions how food is so emotional for so many, and that at one point the emotions need to be addressed as well. [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Aug 3, 2022 • 55min
BEST OF: The Nutella Mom Lawsuit, Sweeteners, & More - Episode 2160
Episode 2160 – BEST OF: We dig way back in the vault to EPISODE 5 where Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss the Nutella Mom lawsuit, advertising, having more to lose, the Biggest Loser show, artificial sweeteners, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/08/best-of-nutella-mom-lawsuit-sweeteners-more-lose-episode-2160 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods Villa Cappelli "NUTELLA MOM" AND BAD ADVERTISING Vinnie is annoyed by the claims of the "Nutella Mom" lawsuit which claims she didn't know the spread was unhealthy. (8:55) Vinnie and Anna discuss advertising over the years and how it has lied about things like smoking. (3:40) The same kind of advertising happens with packaged foods, like the Nutella Mom lawsuit. There is a big difference between having a treat once in a great while and having sugary items daily. (14:15) MORE TO LOSE Anna asks Vinnie about how people with a lot of weight to lose can get started. (22:35) Vinnie has a love-hate relationship with "The Biggest Loser" television show. (23:15) Vinnie has some inside news on the show's methods that are used for the contestants--and they aren't great. (24:00) Vinnie recommends chipping away at weight loss slowly by cutting out sugars and grains and by moving your body each day. (26:15) They also discuss another popular TV trainer and the bad recommendations that the trainer has made. (34:00) ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS Vinnie and Anna discuss several brands of sweeteners and why they aren't good to use. (41:21) It's simply best to break your sweet tooth and save treats for limited occasions. (53:20) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 11min
Adventures at KetoCon - Episode 2159
Episode 2159 - On this Monday's show Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss Vinnie's aerobic goal update, adventures at KetoCon, "life into living" stories (LIL), the Fruitarian episode, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/08/adventures-ketocon-episode-2159 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods ADVENTURES AT KETOCON Vinnie tells Anna he is "shot out a cannon" and shares a new promo event for NSNG® foods. (3:45) Vinnie and Anna chat about Vinnie's aerobic goals for this year. (9:10) Vinnie has been traveling a lot, so chats about options during his trip. Both Anna and Vinnie talk about how they like to set challenges for themselves for fun and to mix things up a bit. Vinnie and Anna recap their adventures at KetoCon weekend. (15:10) Anna has some updates for upcoming demos she'll be doing. (40:20) The conversation then moves into the discussion of opportunities for "life into living". (41:53) "Mah-rie" is on the straight and narrow and Vinnie mentions how well she's doing. Vinnie shares his story of being at a special birthday party he attended while traveling. (43:50) Anna has a similar story she shares, where she was looking forward to some "LIL". (48:00) They wrap up the show with a discussion about the Fruitarian episode that was recently reposted (Best Of, Episode 2150). (53:20) They chat about some of the nonsense and lies that the Fruitarian told, as well as some of the feelings they had about it.

Jul 31, 2022 • 25min
Stay Cool - Episode 2158
Episode 2158 - On this Sunday School show, Vinnie Tortorich and Gina Grad chat about a couple of celebrity meetings, how to dress to stay cool on hot days, the importance of vitamin D, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/07/stay-cool-episode-2158 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods STAY COOL The show opens with a little Joni Mitchell music and starts a conversation about the two celebrities Vinnie has ever really "fanboyed" over. (4:53) Then Vinnie asks Gina about a tweet he sent out (but has since removed); as a result, they discuss how to dress for hot days in order to stay cool. (10:54) Vinnie and Gina also mention the importance of vitamin D. (17:58) To wrap things up, Vinnie and Gina chat a moment about the appeal of natural aging. (20:49) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Jul 30, 2022 • 54min
Some Challenges & Hope with Sarah Sweeney - Episode 2157
Episode 2157 - On this Saturday's show Vinnie Tortorich has Sarah Sweeney return to go over exercises that are used to assess some challenges in speech and they discuss Vinnie's childhood, demonstrate exercises their benefits, breathing, muscle fatigue, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/07/some-challenges-hope-sarah-sweeney-episode-2157 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods SOME CHALLENGES This episode will be available on YouTube, if you'd like to follow along and see the exercises Sarah has Vinnie do for assessment purposes. Vinnie welcomes Sarah back to the show and the two discuss Vinnie's childhood treatment by other kids, teachers, and nuns, and his frustrations with having a speech impediment. (2:45) Vinnie is grateful for a good home life, Joe Bonnadonna, and some close friends who all helped make daily life more bearable. (5:45) Vinnie shares some challenges at school growing up which ultimately led to his turning away from religion. (11:00) A BIT OF HOPE Sarah then has Vinnie go through some exercises to assess where some challenges may be. (22:00) They discuss the benefits of certain moves that affect speech, breathing, and surrounding muscles. Sarah gives Vinnie a possible solution and shares information about what is involved in treatment and recovery. They discuss further the benefits of proper breathing and the effect it has on sleep and health. (44:10) Sarah emphasizes the importance of proper diaphragmatic breathing; it's just as important to know what muscles don't need to be tensed as well. (49:40) Sarah summarized what exercises they went over, and Vinnie is very enthusiastic about the possibilities of treatment. (50:30) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Jul 29, 2022 • 1h 6min
More Behind-the-Scenes - Episode 2156
Episode 2156 - On this Friday's show, Vinnie has "Lucy X" return to the show with more behind-the-scenes information from her online nutrition job, and they chat about keto, CICO, fasted exercise, bodybuilding, carbs, and much more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/07/more-behind-scenes-episode-2156 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods MORE BEHIND-THE-SCENES Vinnie welcomes Lucy X back as she has some items to share regarding her job at an online health coaching job and she gives some of her backstory. (2:10) They chat a bit about why Vinnie and NSNG® are so helpful, and it's because Vinnie's approach isn't misleading or gimmicky. (7:00) Lucy X has brought three articles from the company to discuss with Vinnie and gets his take on them; as a result, there is a lot of good clarification by Vinnie on how nutrition and the body works. (11:30) The first article is about keto and whether it's sustainable or worth doing. (12:10) The second article is about "Health Myths Debunked" and they discuss things like CICO and fasted exercise vs. not fasted. (25:15) The third article talks about bodybuilding, how much protein a person needs, supplements, how muscles grow, and more. (35:00) Vinnie points out throughout the conversation the inaccuracies, discrepancies, and contradictions in the articles. Lucy X goes on to add more behind-the-scenes info when she reveals that she and the other coaches are told to "coach around" the discrepancies and keep people moving forward on the program. (1:00:15) They end the show making a great point about health coaching--it works best when you are telling the truth. (1:02:00)

Jul 27, 2022 • 20min
A Teachable Moment - Episode 2155
Episode 2155 - On this Wednesday's show Vinnie Tortorich and Andy Schrieber chat about covid, a teachable moment with Vinnie, updates with NSNG® Foods and Pure Vitamin Club, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/teachable-moment-episode-2155 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods A TEACHABLE MOMENT Vinnie welcomes Andy back after a couple of weeks away from the show and tells Andy how people have been enjoying the "Best Of" episodes as well. (1:35) Vinnie asks Andy how he's doing after having covid. (2:20) Vinnie then switches to a conversation he had during a consult that was a teachable moment to the client--and everyone else. (6:10) Even folks who have been doing low-carb for years can let certain habits hinder them without fully realizing it. He gives a perfect example of this when he chats about the consult. Vinnie asks Andy for updates on NSNG® Foods and Pure Vitamin Club--all good! (16:00) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Jul 25, 2022 • 1h 31min
A Variety of Things - Episode 2154
Episode 2154 - On this Monday's show Vinnie Tortorich and Anna Vocino discuss a variety of things from being a "Parrothead", an anti-meat article, kids and hormones, the effects of plastics, a chat with "Mah-rie", and much, much more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2020/07/variety-things-episode-2154 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods A VARIETY OF THINGS Vinnie and Anna start the show with some music and commentary on a variety of things such as Jimmy Buffet and being "not retired". (1:59) They also chat a bit about the increase in followers since Vinnie's Mike Rowe appearance. (25:11) Anna then tells Vinnie about an article from Canada about food labeling and claims about the "negative effects" of eating meat. (35:05) There are also recommendations about healthy homemade options for dogs to eat. (39:00) Then Anna asks Vinnie to address a Twitter question regarding the current state of kids and hormones. (44:30) What could be causing issues with kids and hormonal issues that are not normal? They discuss doctors Anthony Jay, Robert Lustig, and Rob Cywes regarding this topic. This leads to a discussion about plastics and their effects on our bodies and the environment. To finish off the show, Vinnie calls in the sweet Mah-rie, and they chat about sausages, wild game meat, and a few recipe ideas. (59:50) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Jul 24, 2022 • 36min
Not As They Seem - Episode 2153
Episode 2153 - On this Sunday School show, Vinnie Tortorich and Gina Grad chat about diet pills and obesity, lifestyle differences, parallel lives, things that are not as they seem, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/07/not-as-they-seem-episode-2153 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods NOT AS THEY SEEM After a little discussion about music and Vinnie's proclivity toward hippie chicks in his younger days, Gina starts the show by mentioning that her social media feed is full of products geared toward weight loss. (1:45) She asks Vinnie his opinion on some of the drugs and how they are "supposed" to work; naturally, they are not as they seem. (9:30) One is a pill and one is an injectable; both address issues that can be resolved by controlling hormones through what you eat. Vinnie studies people and lifestyles and has some comments based on those observations. (21:48) Vinnie and Gina chat about how frustrating the medical system and medications can be. Vinnie mentions the "Lucy X" episode and a summary of the personal story Lucy tells. (30:30) Again, things are not as they seem within the company Lucy X works for. For the full story with Lucy X, check out Episode 2132, "Behind the Scenes". And for a finale, Gina mentions Vinnie, Serena, and parallel lives". (31:38) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!

Jul 23, 2022 • 47min
Sounding Joy & Wellness Over 50 - Episode 2152
Episode 2152 - On this Saturday's show Vinnie Tortorich speaks with Bill and Christy Vogel about their charity Sounding Joy, Bill's success with NSNG®, wellness for the over-50 crowd, and more. https://vinnietortorich.com/2022/07/sounding-joy-wellness-over-50-episode-2152 PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Pure Vitamin Club Pure Coffee Club NSNG® Foods SOUNDING JOY Vinnie welcomes Bill and Christy Vogel for a return visit and Vinnie asks Christy to give an update on her new charity, SoundingJoy.org. (2:45) Christy also gives her backstory regarding hearing impairment and why she is passionate about it. (8:38) Hearing aids can be cost prohibitive and aren't covered much by insurance. There are some startling facts shared about kids with hearing issues. (19:00) Vinnie is very passionate about this topic because of his own history of hearing issues. Christy explains how the Sounding Joy program works and where you can go to find out more and donate. (23:25) WELLNESS OVER 50 Vinnie then switches to Bill who has his own NSNG® success story. (28:08) Bill shares some of his own health issues that he feels NSNG® has helped him stay well. (29:20) Bill also shares how he is focusing on coaching others and specializes in the over-50 age group. (31:00) Vinnie and Bill chat about the attitude today around obesity and how it has been "normalized." (32:14) [the_ad id="20253"] PURCHASE BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE The documentary launched on January 11! Order it TODAY! This is Vinnie's third documentary in just over three years. Get it now on Apple TV (iTunes) and/or Amazon Video! Link to the film on Apple TV (iTunes): bit.ly/beyondimpossibleitunes Then, Share this link with friends, too! It's also now available on Amazon (the USA only for now)! https://amzn.to/3JNhrPE Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY 2 (2021) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter! FAT: A DOCUMENTARY (2019) Visit my new Documentaries HQ to find my films everywhere: https://vinnietortorich.com/documentaries Then, please share my fact-based, health-focused documentary series with your friends and family. The more views, the better it ranks, so please watch it again with a new friend! REVIEWS: Please submit your REVIEW after you watch my films. Your positive REVIEW does matter!


