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Join us for thought provoking conversations on surveillance, digital privacy, and cybersecurity law and policy in the information age. Each week, hosts Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin break down the headlines, legal cases, and policy battles that matter most.
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Jun 15, 2023 • 51min
IT companies sweep in to aid Ukraine.
Dr. Bilyana Lilly sits down with Dave to discuss her co-authored paper for CyCon: "Business @ War: The IT Companies Helping to Defend Ukraine." This week, Ben's story follows the U.S. government declassifying a report on buying troves of data about United States citizens. Dave's story is on how and why deepfakes are entering into U.S. politics.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
DeSantis ushers in our fake-images-in-politics nightmare
The US Is Openly Stockpiling Dirt on All Its Citizens
15th International Conference on Cyber Conflict
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Jun 8, 2023 • 52min
GDPR turns 5.
This week, our guest is Larry Whiteside Jr., CISO from RegScale, who sits down with Dave to discuss GDPR on the occasion of its 5th anniversary. Ben talks about an appeals court decision in a "zombie case" that could have major ramifications for cybersecurity firms. Dave's got the story of a Texas judge who is none-too-happy with ChatGPT in his courtroom, unless checked out by a human.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
This ‘zombie case’ could have big ramifications for cybersecurity firms
Federal judge: No AI in my courtroom unless a human verifies its accuracy
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Jun 1, 2023 • 60min
What would it take to change a law?
Caleb Barlow of Cylete sits down to talk with Dave and Ben about what cyber laws should change, and what it would potentially take to change some of these laws. Ben's story is regarding a massive fine being levied against Meta, the owner of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp, among other products and services, for violation of European Union privacy laws. Dave's got the story of New York taking a stand on AI when it comes to hiring.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Meta Fined $1.3 Billion for Violating E.U. Data Privacy Rules
A Hiring Law Blazes a Path for A.I. Regulation
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May 25, 2023 • 58min
It's a generations thing.
This week, our guest is Mathieu Gorge from Vigitrust joins to discuss generational attitudes toward privacy and how they will influence business in the future. Ben's got the story of the FBI misusing Section 702 authority to surveil Americans. Dave's got a recap of congressional testimony about AI security.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
FBI misused surveillance tool on Jan. 6 suspects, BLM arrestees and others
OpenAI CEO tells Senate that he fears AI’s potential to manipulate views
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May 18, 2023 • 58min
A hand in crafting cybersecurity legislation.
This week our guest is Ben Yelin, and he and Dave both sit down to discuss some recent cybersecurity legislation that he had a hand in crafting. Ben talks about a case dealing with the timing of computer search warrants. Dave looks at copyright and Apple’s loss in court in an iOS case.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
The Volokh Conspiracy
Eleventh Circuit Finds Corellium’s Copying of iOS as Fair Use in Victory for Security Researchers
APPLE INC., Plaintiff-Counter Defendant-Appellant
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May 11, 2023 • 59min
Being on top of your data consent.
Mark Ailsworth from Opaque Systems joins Dave to discuss how if enterprises are not already on top of their own data consent and privacy mechanisms, they’re one critical step behind their competitors. Ben has the story of litigants arguing in court that real videos are Deep Fakes. Dave looks to Ben for better understanding of what the heck is going on with the Supreme Court.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:People are trying to claim real videos are deepfakes. The courts are not amusedGot a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 4, 2023 • 44min
Your approach to efficient security compliance.
This week our guest is, Nick Means from Sym, he sits down with Dave to discuss how to build a compliance program without tanking your engineering velocity. Ben has the story of a Pennsylvania case on whether people have a reasonable expectation of privacy in Google searches. Dave's story takes a look at the notion of a “Defensive Search” exception to the Fourth Amendment.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
2023 PA Super 72
There Is No “Defensive Search” Exception to the Fourth Amendment: Why a Consistent Warrant Rule Is Necessary to Fix FISA Section 702
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Apr 27, 2023 • 44min
Encore: The Supreme Court's supreme security breach.
Dov Lerner, Security Research Lead at Cybersixgill, discusses how things that would have been considered off-limits are now routine. He specifically get into new research showing several instances of personal information exposed of the five conservative U.S. Supreme Court Justices in the wake of Roe V. Wade being overturned. Ben talks through a proposed expansion of video surveillance in San Francisco. Dave's story is on an insurance company calling foul on a client’s lack of multi-factor authentication.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney.
Breed and New DA Jenkins Pushing Hard to Expand Police Access to Private Security Cameras All Over Town
Travelers Wants Out of Contract With Insured That Allegedly Misrepresented MFA Use
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Apr 20, 2023 • 48min
The U.S. Government and a cybersecurity budget.
This week, our guest Ilona Cohen from HackerOne sits down with Ben to discuss Biden's Cyber Strategy and National Budget allocations for cybersecurity. Ben has the story of a proposed Montana state law to ban the popular social media app TikTok. Dave's got the story of the FTC taking action against an Amazon merchant who is deceiving supplement consumers.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Montana Legislature Approves Outright Ban of TikTok
FTC fines supplement maker $600,000 for 'review hijacking' Amazon listings
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Apr 13, 2023 • 54min
Addressing National Cyber Strategy.
Danielle Jablanski from Nozomi Networks to joins Dave to discuss one year of Shields Up as it relates to the National Cyber Strategy and one year of the Ukraine conflict. Ben brings us the story of Immigration and Customs Enforcement using its authority to gather data from schools and medical clinics. Dave's got the story of ChatGPT’s lies and the Biden administration’s possible regulatory reaction.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
ICE Is Grabbing Data From Schools and Abortion Clinics
ChatGPT invented a sexual harassment scandal and named a real law prof as the accused
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