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Join us for thought provoking conversations on surveillance, digital privacy, and cybersecurity law and policy in the information age. Each week, hosts Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin break down the headlines, legal cases, and policy battles that matter most.
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Nov 2, 2023 • 43min
AI all around.
David Brumley, a cybersecurity professor at Carnegie Mellon and CEO of software security firm, ForAllSecure, sits down to talk about the AI Executive Order that was recently signed. Ben's story reviews the outlines of a new Executive Order on AI. Dave's got one organization's attempts to look at data provenance in AI.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Biden signs AI executive order, the most expansive regulatory attempt yet
AI researchers uncover ethical, legal risks to using popular data sets
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Oct 26, 2023 • 48min
Privacy landscapes for children.
Cobun Zweifel-Keegan from International Association of Privacy Professionals (IAPP) sits down to talk about the children’s privacy landscape in the US and beyond. Ben's story discusses whether AI giants may soon have to worry about defamation lawsuits. Dave's got the story on FCC’s renewed interest in net neutrality.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Will ChatGPT’s hallucinations be allowed to ruin your life?
FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote
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Oct 19, 2023 • 50min
Getting on track with DNS.
This week, we have Robert Carolina, General Counsel from Internet Systems Consortium joining Dave and Ben to discuss Quad9 DNS filter court case. Ben and Dave discuss an article from the International Red Cross looking at 8 rules for “civilian hackers” during war, and 4 obligations for states to restrain them.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:8 rules for “civilian hackers” during war, and 4 obligations for states to restrain themGot a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oct 12, 2023 • 52min
Issues in cybersecurity policy.
This week, Dave and Ben both sit down with Caleb Barlow, founder and CEO of Cylete, to ponder some challenging global policy issues together. Ben has the story of Amazon Alexa devices spreading election misinformation, specifically on the 2020 election. Dave's story is on the legal pushback against warrantless searching of peoples electronic devices at the US border.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Amazon’s Alexa has been claiming the 2020 election was stolen
Knight Institute and Reporters Committee File Amicus Brief in Case Challenging Electronic Device Searches at the Border
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Oct 5, 2023 • 55min
Encore: The relationship between organizations and their data.
Stephen Cavey, co-founder and chief evangelist from GroundLabs sits down with Dave to discuss the relationship between organizations and their data. Ben has the story of lawyers being denied entry to Madison Square Garden as the result of facial recognition software. Dave's got the story of some law professors worried about the new app sweeping the nation, ChatGPT.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney.
Lawyers Barred by Madison Square Garden Found a Way Back In
Some law professors fear ChatGPT's rise as others see opportunity
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Sep 28, 2023 • 48min
Challenges in the cyber industry.
Monica Shokrai, Google representative, discusses challenges in the cyber industry, including Google's use of an actuarial team. Topics covered include a TikTok account using facial recognition, information shared in the Google antitrust case, and the difficulties of cyber insurance. They also explore the role of brokers and the increasing concern over privacy invasion.

Sep 21, 2023 • 46min
Make your mark CISOs.
This week, our guest is Karen Worstell from VMware to discuss how CISOs can make their mark with the new SEC rules. Ben's story discusses a Michigan case dealing with persistent unmanned aerial vehicle (drone) surveillance. Dave's got the story of a California judge blocking a law aimed at increasing the online safety for kids, by saying it violates the first amendment in the constitution.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
EFF to Michigan Court: Governments Shouldn’t Be Allowed to Use a Drone to Spy on You Without a Warrant
Judge blocks California law meant to increase online safety for kids
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Sep 14, 2023 • 46min
Europe leading the way on data privacy and data sharing.
Guest Rachael Ormiston of Osano discusses the US and EU's Data Privacy Framework with Ben. This week's stories include, Ben discussing an Appeals Court decision mostly reversing a District Court order that barred communication between federal officials and social media companies. Dave's got the story of policy makers putting the intelligence community on notice when it comes to warrantless wiretapping.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Order limiting Biden admin contacts with social networks is mostly overturned
Top US Spies Meet With Privacy Experts Over Surveillance ‘Crown Jewel’
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Sep 7, 2023 • 51min
Laws outpace compliance programs.
This week, our guests are Cinthia Motley and Sean Buckley from Dykema, who are discussing cybersecurity law and compliance with data collection. Ben has the story of a Federal Judge blocking an Arkansas law limiting minors’ access to social media. Dave's got the story of court-ordered blocking of websites at the Domain Name Service (DNS) level.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Quad9 Founders on the Dangers of Global DNS Blocks by Rights Holders
Judge blocks Arkansas law requiring parental approval for minors to create social media accounts
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Aug 31, 2023 • 51min
Compliance can't wait.
Igor Volovich from Qmulos sits down with Dave to discuss how compliance can’t wait for the government to find alignment on security and risk. Ben shares the story of a Federal Judge dismissing a lawsuit from the Republican National Committee against Google. Dave's got an opinion piece from the New York Times making the case that social media platforms should provide algorithmic choice.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Judge tosses Republicans’ lawsuit accusing Google’s spam filters of bias
What if You Knew What You Were Missing on Social Media?
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