

Drummers on Drumming
Ben Hilzinger
A podcast for drummers who think too much. Ben Hilzinger talks to the greats about creativity, identity, staying sane, and finding purpose behind the kit. Powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. For more inforamtion, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.
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Jun 28, 2023 • 1h 5min
Big Fat Five: Chris Dadge's (Chad VanGaalen, Alvvays, Samantha Savage Smith) Top 5 Influences
This week’s guest is Chris Dadge, a Canadian drummer producer based out of Calgary, Alberta. He’s worked with so many great artists and he tells you all about a month in the life of him …so I’ll let the master do the talking. Just push play; it’s worth it. Thanks again to Sheridan Riley, drummer for the band Alvvays for recommending Chris. He did not dissappoint. All right, please enjoy my chat with Chris Dodge about the 5 records that shaped him into the player…and person he is today. Cheers!Check out Chris' Discography HEREPhil Minto and Roger Turner Performance HERE---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.CHRIS' BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - Gone, Just Like A TrainArtist - Bill FrisellRelease Year - 1998Key Track(s) - Verona; Egg Radio; Girl Asks Boy (Pt. 1)Drummer - Jim Keltner-Album - OutlasterArtist - Nina NastasiaRelease Year - 2010Key Track(s) - You're A Holy Man; You Can Take Your TimeDrummer - Jay Bellerose-Album - LargoArtist - Brad MehldauRelease Year - 2002Key Track(s) - Dusty McNugget; When It RainsDrummer - Matt Chamberlain-Album - DrainageArtist - Phil Minton and Roger TurnerRelease Year - 2003Key Track(s) - All of it!Drummer - Roger TurnerAlbum - NefertitiArtist - Miles DavisRelease Year - 1968Key Track(s) - Nefertiti; Fall; Hand JiveDrummer - Tony WilliamsFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 19min
Big Fat Five: Jojo Mayer: Clarity > Perfection
This week’s guest is Jojo Mayer. I am in the midst of a project that has me going through a bunch of our past episodes (I will be announcing this project shortly and I’m super excited about it), but when I went back through the Jojo’s episode, I was reminded of its importance. Jojo is mind-blowing player who helped pioneer the drum n bass movement in New York City by “reverse engineering” programmed drum loops and applying them to the drum set. He is also revered for his exceptional technique, which he dissects in the wildly-popular instructional series titled “Secret Weapons For The Modern Drummer Parts 1 & 2”. He is the leader of his own band, Nerve, which he founded back in 1997. We don’t necessarily stick to the normal format in this one; Jojo is a great storyteller. We start off with a few anecdotes about a cymbal once-owned by Billy Higgins that Jojo picked up by happenstance and Jojo’s time spent “studying” with Freddy Gruber, but we certainly touch on a lot of Jojo’s opinions / perspectives regarding accepting influences, but knowing when they’re actually a detriment to your personal growth on the instrument. He’s a very philosophical man and shares quite a few nuggets of slap-you-in-the-face style wisdom. Even though this is probably one of our most-downloaded episodes over the life of the show, we’ve been getting a lot of new listeners and I wanted to push this towards the top because, well…it’s important. I’ve cleaned it up a bit and put a cute lil bow in it. Stay tuned for my fun little project announcement, but in the meantime…please enjoy my chat with my esteemed guest, Jojo Mayer. Cheers! ---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 14, 2023 • 1h 1min
Big Fat Five: Kris Myers' (Umphrey's McGee) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Kris Myers - a Nashville-based drummer whose main project is the progressive-rock band Umphrey’s McGee, but he’s also played with a variety of jazz artists including Nicholas Payton, Randy Brecker, Dennis DiBlasio and many more. With Umphrey’s, Kris has shared the stage with Les Claypool, Huey Lewis, Stephen Perkins, Victor Wooten, Bill Evans, Jason Bonham and many more…as always. He truly is an INSANE drummer and I will say he’s probably the best guest at breaking down his choices. Even though we’ve heard a few of his picks before, I learned a lot from his explanations. AND a Big Fat thanks to Neal Daniels for the recommendation :) Go check out Neal’s episode from a few weeks back. OKKKKKK…here are Kris Myers’ 5 records that shaped him into the drummer he is today :)))---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.KRIS' BIG FAT FIVE👇🏻-Album - Zenyatta MondattaRelease Year - 1980Artist - The PoliceKey Track(s) - Driven To TearsDrummer - Stewart Copeland-Album - Are You Experienced?Release Year - 1967Artist - Jimi HendrixKey Track(s) - FireDrummer - Mitch Mitchell-Album - Led ZeppelinRelease Year - 1969Artist - Led ZeppelinKey Track(s) - Good Times Bad TimesDrummer - John Bonham-Album - Speak No EvilRelease Year - 1966Artist - Wayne ShorterKey Track(s) - Witch HuntDrummer - Elvin Jones-Album - Vinnie CalaiutaRelease Year - 1993Artist - Vinnie CalaiutaKey Track(s) - I’m Tweeked! Attack of the 20 LB PizzaDrummer - Vinnie CalaiutaFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 7, 2023 • 1h 13min
Big Fat Five: Ian Froman's Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Ian Froman - an incredible jazz drummer based in New York City. Ian has taught at Berklee College of Music, Drummers Collective, New School University, City College of New York in addition to private lessons. He has toured the world with so many of the greatest players in the genre including (but CERTAINLY not limited to) John Abercrombie, Dave Holland, Michael Brecker, Gary Burton, and Matthew Garrison. This is easily one of my favorite conversations I’ve ever had…and not just on the podcast. Ian is such a fun story teller and he’s got A LOT of stories. Also, a big shoutout to Mike Powers from Boston who suggested I reach out to Ian! Alright, here is Ian Froman’s Big Fat Five. Cheers! ---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.IAN'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - A Love SupremeRelease Year - 1965Artist - John ColtraneSong Choice - ResolutionDrummer - Elvin Jones-Album - Now He Sings, Now He SobsRelease Year - 1968Artist - Chick CoreaSong Choice - StepsDrummer - Roy Haynes-Album - Still LiveRelease Year - 1986Artist - Keith JarrettDrummer - Jack DeJohnette-Album - Michael BreckerRelease Year - 1987Artist - Michael BreckerSong Choice - SyzygyDrummer - Jack Dejohnette-Album - Paths PrintsRelease Year - 1982Artist - Jan GarbarekDrummer - Jon ChristensenFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 31, 2023 • 48min
Big Fat Five: Neal Daniels' (LP, Liz Phair, Matt Nathanson) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Neal Daniels…an LA-based drummer with credits that include LP, Liz Phair, Matt Nathanson, Booker T. Jones, Post Malone, Due Lipa, Camila Cabello and many more. As is common with this podcast, we’ve known each other from afar for quite some time, but this podcast keeps bringing people together! Neal is a pro drummer through and through and this is certainly a masterclass in the journey towards enlightenment. We talk about the music that sparked his initial interest in drums / his inevitable stoner rock stage / his previous tendency to overplay / his moving to LA & feeling lost with his playing. Don't worry, it all has a happy ending. Please enjoy my conversation with Neal Daniels about the 5 records that shaped him into the player he is today. Cheers! ---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.NEALS BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - TENRelease Year - 1991Artist - Pearl JamSong Choice (to be played during the show) - AliveDrummer (if known) - Dave Krusen-Album - Master Of PuppetsRelease Year - 1986Artist - MetallicaSong Choice (to be played during the show) - BatteryDrummer (if known) - Lars Ulrich-Album - Anchor DropsRelease Year - 2004Artist - Umphrey's McgeeSong Choice (to be played during the show) - Ja Junk Part 1Drummer (if known) - Kris Myers-Album - Over-Nite SensationRelease Year - 1973Artist - Frank ZappaSong Choice (to be played during the show) - I'm The SlimeDrummer (if known) - Ralph Humphrey-Album - Clones Of Dr. FunkensteinRelease Year - 1976Artist - ParliamentSong Choice (to be played during the show) - Everything Is On The OneDrummer (if known) - Jerome “Bigfoot” BraileyFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 24, 2023 • 1h 10min
Big Fat Five: Kellii Scott's (Failure) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Kellii Scott - drummer for the band Failure. He’s also worked with Liquid Jesus, A Perfect Circle, Queens of the Stoneage, Veruca Salt, Pink, James Blunt, Christina Aguilera, Linda Perry, Faith Hill, etc.…it’s all over the place. He’s a monster-of-a-player and, while we’ve known OF each other from afar for a bit, we finally got to meet backstage at a Sunny Day Real Estate concert recently in LA (thanks to William Goldsmith!). I hope you enjoy my interview with Kellii Scott about the 5 records that shaped him into the drummer he is today. Cheers!---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.KELLII'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - Highway to HellRelease Year - 1979Artist - ACDCSong Choice - Walk All Over YouDrummer - Phil Rudd-Album - All The World's A StageRelease Year - 1976Artist - RushSong Choice - 2112 OvertureDrummer - Neil Peart-Album - DestroyerRelease Year - 1976Artist - KissSong Choice - Flaming YouthDrummer - Peter Criss-Album - Number of the BeastRelease Year - 1982Artist - Iron MaidenSong Choice - PrisonerDrummer - Clive Burr-Album - In Through The Out DoorRelease Year - 1979Artist - Led ZeppelinSong Choice - Fool In The RainDrummer - John Henry BonhamFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 17, 2023 • 45min
Big Fat Five: Noa Kahn's Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Noa Kahn…a Grammy-nominated drummer who, while only moving to the US from Israel in 2019, has already taken the industry by storm and getting hired by some of the best names in the game…including Jax and Big Wild. I had the pleasure of sharing a bill with her last month and wow - she’s incredibly humble, but SUCH a monster player. Her name will be heard a lot for some time to come. I was so excited to chat and I hope you enjoy this conversation with one of my new favorite drummers, Noa Kahn, on the 5 records that shaped her into the musician she is today. Cheers! ---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.NOAH'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - Tower of PowerRelease Year - 1973Artist - Tower of PowerSong Choice - Soul VaccinationDrummer - David Garibaldi-Album - Master PlanRelease Year - 1990Artist - Dave WecklSong Choice - Festival De RitmoDrummer - Dave Weckl-Album - Live In ConcertRelease Year - 2001Artist - Kim BurrellSong Choice - I’ll Keep Holding OnDrummer - Robert “Sput” Searight-Album - ElasticRelease Year - 2002Artist - Joshua RedmanSong Choice - Jazz CrimesDrummer - Brian Blade-Album - FuzzyRelease Year - 2007Artist - Oz NoySong Choice - FuzzyDrummer - Keith CarlockFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 10, 2023 • 57min
Big Fat Five: Andrew Marshall's (Billie Eilish, FINNEAS) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Andrew Marshall – the incredible drummer for both Billie Eilish and FINNEAS. He was one of the first drummers I met when moving to LA and we’ve been friends ever since. I hope you enjoy the 5 records that helped shape Andrew Marshall into the drummer he is today.---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.ANDREW'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - The Birthday ConcertRelease Year - 1995 (recorded in 1981)Artist - Jaco PastoriusSong Choice - Soul Intro/The ChickenDrummer - Peter Erskine-Album - Soul Vaccination: Tower of Power LiveRelease Year - 1999Artist - Tower of PowerSong Choice - Soul VaccinationDrummer - David Garibaldi-Album - To The StarsRelease Year - 2004Artist - Chick Corea Elektric BandSong Choice - Mistress Luck--The PartyDrummer - Dave Weckl-Album - ...Is A Real BoyRelease Year - 2004Artist - Say AnythingSong Choice - BeltDrummer - Coby Linder-Album - The Bells SketchRelease Year - 2010Artist - James BlakeSong Choice - Buzzard & KestrelDrummer - James Blake (programming)For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 3, 2023 • 47min
Big Fat Five: Jordan Rose' (Theo Katzman, Cory Wong, Caleb Hawley) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Jordan Rose - a Brooklyn-based session drummer who’s worked with Theo Katzman, Cory Wong, SZA, Caleb Hawley, Charlie Puth, Pomplamoose, Charlie Hunter and so many other legends. I know I’m a broken record, but I LOVE his feel on the kit and I couldn’t wait to get him on the show. He’s overcome a lot in his life, including a period of 2 years where he lost hearing in his right ear, but it only made him into a better musician. We also talk about music helped him overcoming his social anxiety (something that I personally struggle with to this day). All in all, Jordan is a gem. I hope you enjoy the 5 records that helped shaped Jordan Rose into the drummer he is today. Cheers! ---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.JORDAN'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - The Best of YellowjacketsRelease Year - 1999Artist - YellowjacketsSong Choice - New RochelleDrummer - Will Kennedy-Album - Texas FloodRelease Year - 1983Artist - Stevie Ray VaughnSong Choice - LennyDrummer - Chris Layton-Album - ContinuumRelease Year - 2006Artist - John MayerSong Choice - VulturesDrummer - Steve Jordan-Album - Donny Hathaway LiveRelease Year - 1972Artist - Donny HathawaySong Choice - You've Got a FriendDrummer - Fred White-Album - Band of Gypsys (50th Anniversary / Live At Fillmore East, 1970)Artist - Jimi HendrixSong Choice - Power To Love - LiveDrummer - Buddy Miles-HONORABLE MENTIONSLife on Planet Groove by Maceo Parker - Kenwood Dennard on drumsBill Withers Live at Carnegie Hall - James Gadson on drumsKing Curtis Live At The Fillmore West - Bernard Purdie on drumsWithout A Net by Wayne Shorter - Brian Blade on drumsFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 26, 2023 • 47min
Big Fat Five: Jonathan Pinson's (Boom Clap, Mark Turner, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock) Top 5 Influential Records
This week’s guest is Jonathan Pinson - an award-winning drummer and band leader. He’s played with Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Mark Turner and so many others…he has a Masters in music from UCLA via the very prestigious Thelonius Munk Institute of Jazz Performance. He is currently a professor at California Institute of the Arts and the leader of his own band, Boom Clap. He’s an incredible musician and it was an honor to have him on the show. I hope you enjoy the 5 records that’s helped shape Jonathon Pinson into the drummer he is today. Cheers!---Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!🎯 Click here to order now!Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.JONATHAN'S BIG FAT FIVE 👇🏻-Album - PerceptualRelease Year - 2000Artist - Brian Blade & The Fellowship BandSong Choice - PerceptualDrummer - Brian Blade-Album - Citizen TainRelease Year - 1999Artist - Jeff Tain WattsSong Choice - The ImpalerDrummer - Jeff Tain Watts-Album - Live on Tour in EuropeRelease Year - 1976Artist - The Billy Cobham George Duke BandSong Choice - Almustafa The BelovedDrummer - Billy Cobham-Album - ContinuumRelease Year - 2006Artist - John MayerSong Choice - GravityDrummer - Steve Jordan-Album - Live at The Village VanguardRelease Year - 1999Artist - Wynton MarsalisSong Choice - Jig’s JigDrummer - Herlin RileyFor more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


