

Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast
I Hear Everything
Dive deep into the ever-changing world of content and search engine marketing. Discover actionable strategies and learn ways to gain insights through data that will help you navigate the topsy-turvy world of SEO.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 3min
How will the relationship between structured data and generative AI evolve over the next 18 months?
Structured data's role in AI is rapidly evolving. Martha van Berkel, CEO of Schema App, examines how structured data will become a critical data feed for large language models beyond traditional SEO applications. She explains why data with context is essential for reducing hallucinations in AI models, and predicts that frameworks and protocols will become increasingly important for organizing information that feeds into generative systems.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 17, 2025 • 2min
Structured data will become mandatory for ranking in AI-generated search results by 2025?
Structured data may soon become mandatory for AI search rankings. Martha van Berkel, CEO of Schema App, shares her expert perspective on why search engines will likely require structured data implementation by 2025. She explains how computational costs will drive this requirement and predicts companies will need to adapt their technical SEO strategies to maintain visibility in AI-generated results.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 16, 2025 • 34min
How GenAI uses structured data
Structured data is critical for AI-powered search success. Martha van Berkel, CEO of Schema App, explains how to optimize content for generative AI environments. She details how schema markup creates a knowledge graph that enables AI inferencing, explores the Model Context Protocol (MCP) as a universal framework for LLMs, and demonstrates why unique, expert content with proper semantic connections outperforms generic material.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 14, 2025 • 2min
3 areas SEO should focus on to stay relevant
SEO professionals face a rapidly evolving landscape with AI integration. Dale Bertrand, President of Fire&Spark, shares strategic insights for maintaining relevance in modern search. He emphasizes staying laser-focused on understanding customer search behaviors across platforms, monitoring how users interact with AI systems, and tracking which pages receive traffic from AI referrals rather than being distracted by industry speculation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 13, 2025 • 3min
One word that describes the current state of AI search integration into SEO strategies
The future of SEO requires exploration amid AI integration. Dale Bertrand, President of Fire&Spark, shares how SEO professionals must upgrade their skill sets to adapt to rapidly changing search technology. He emphasizes the importance of experimentation, both with new technologies and in redefining SEO's value within marketing organizations, while acknowledging that traditional SEO approaches will no longer suffice in this evolving landscape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 12, 2025 • 3min
Investing more resources in educating LLMs about your brand vs optimizing for traditional search signals
Traditional SEO signals vs. LLM optimization presents a false choice. Dale Bertrand of Fire&Spark explains why relevance remains the fundamental target regardless of platform. He argues that search engines and AI platforms are technologically converging, making relevance to customer conversations the priority rather than optimizing for specific algorithms or platforms.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 11, 2025 • 4min
The evolving relationship between content creators and AI tools
AI is transforming content creation roles and requirements. Dale Bertrand, President of Fire&Spark, explains how AI tools are democratizing content production by removing technical barriers to entry. He argues that future content creators will be defined by their vision and novel ideas rather than technical skills, positioning creative thinkers to thrive in an AI-augmented landscape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 10, 2025 • 3min
Will optimizing content specifically for AI search become more important than traditional search optimization this year??
Will AI search optimization overtake traditional SEO? Dale Bertrand, President of Fire&Spark, challenges this notion with a customer-first approach to content strategy. He argues that successful SEO requires building genuine audience communities rather than simply creating "useful" content without search engine considerations. Bertrand emphasizes that SEO professionals must embrace the end of "golden days" shortcuts and commit to the real work of audience building, customer understanding, and authentic marketing.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 9, 2025 • 30min
Educating LLMs & Optimizing Content for AI Search
Dale Bertrand, President of Fire&Spark, shares insights on adapting SEO to the AI-driven landscape. He emphasizes moving from technical tactics to a marketing-first approach, advocating for direct customer engagement over traditional analytics. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding user behavior and developing content that creates genuine interactions. As AI takes on routine tasks, SEO professionals must focus on strategy and communication, evolving into roles like AI agent SEO strategist to thrive in this new environment.

Jun 7, 2025 • 3min
Investing in AI content generation tools vs human editorial resources on a limited SEO budget
When budgets are tight, where should you invest more: AI content tools or human editors? Jade Pruett discusses striking the right balance. She stresses the need to prioritize technical SEO fundamentals before enhancing content quality. Even luxury brands can falter if basic technical aspects are neglected. Pruett advises building a solid technical foundation first, as quality content has little impact if not properly indexed.


