Sunita Sa
Physician-turned-organizational psychologist and Cornell professor who researches speaking up and defiance; author of the book Defy (How to Speak Up When It Matters).
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Mar 19, 2026 • 27min
The Science of Defiance (and Why You Need It)
Linda Babcock, professor who researches how women end up doing dead-end workplace tasks. Sunita Sa, physician-turned-organizational psychologist who studies speaking up and defiance. They discuss why we’re wired to comply and how tension can signal the need to act. They outline learnable steps to say no and show how unequal task expectations hurt careers and organizations.
