

Stephanie Pell
Fellow at the Brookings Center for Technology Innovation specializing in cyber and national security law, with expertise in surveillance, cyber ethics, and related public policy issues.
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Mar 23, 2026 • 28min
Does the Anthropic–Pentagon feud mean the end of responsible AI?
Valerie Wirtschafter, Brookings fellow on AI and democratic resilience, and Stephanie Pell, Brookings cyber and national security law expert, discuss the Anthropic–Pentagon clash. They cover the refusal to permit lethal autonomous use, legal fights over supply-chain risk, surveillance and de-anonymization concerns, effects on companies doing government work, and what Congress might do next.


