Sarah Kreps

Sarah Kreps, director at the Tech Policy Institute and expert on drone policy, unpacks the rise of one-way 'loitering' munitions and how cheap, mass-produced drones are reshaping warfare. She discusses saturation strikes, differences between small and larger systems, evolving civilian risks, AI’s role with humans still in the loop, and how drones may change the length and cost of conflicts.

Sarah Kreps, director of the Tech Policy Institute and author on drones and defense policy, explains how loitering kamikaze drones and cheap swarm tactics are reshaping conflicts. She compares U.S. and Ukraine use, outlines drone varieties from small commercial models to larger combat systems, and discusses cost, ethics, AI involvement, and whether drones prolong or change warfare.

In this insightful discussion, Sarah Kreps, a Professor of government, law, and public policy, shares her expertise on NATO and global security. She delves into NATO's historical evolution and its current relevance amidst the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Kreps explains Ukraine's aspirations for NATO membership and Russia's opposition, emphasizing the implications for global security norms. The conversation also highlights the complexities of U.S. military commitments, the challenges of collective defense, and the rising concerns over nuclear threats in the region.