Dr. Yael Schacher, an immigration law historian, and Nicole Gorney, an immigration attorney, explore the controversial third-country removal policy under the Trump administration. They discuss how 8,000 people were deported to unfamiliar places like Costa Rica, violating legal rights and creating dire consequences. German, a Russian whistleblower, shares his harrowing journey and the challenges faced by asylum seekers navigating this system. The guests elaborate on the legal implications, pressures on clients, and the expansion’s historical context in immigration policy.