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Matt Bevan
Host and writer of the If You're Listening podcast who explains world news and international affairs through narrative episodes and series, focusing on connections between past and present events.
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Dec 23, 2025
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Matt Bevan on the players in Trump’s orbit
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Matt Bevan, host of the If You're Listening podcast and an ABC journalist, dives into the unconventional characters surrounding Donald Trump. He shares fascinating stories about Steve Witkoff, a former deli owner turned peace envoy, including a poignant account of grief driving his humanitarian efforts. Bevan also explores Howard Lutnick’s link to 9/11 and his controversial economic strategies, revealing how Trump's staffing strategy favors loyalty over merit. The conversation highlights the intricate web of relationships influencing U.S. policies.
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