Salil (Neuron Factory), founder of a knowledge‑graph preconstruction startup. Samir (Coral), fintech founder making instant, guaranteed heat‑pump rebates. Mark (Trimble), Trimble exec on the Document Crunch acquisition and AI strategy. Josh (Document Crunch), founder who built dispute‑reducing contract tooling and sold to Trimble. They unpack the acquisition, AI valuations, precon speedups, rebate fintech, and industry trust vs. “vibe coding.”