Mackie Overbay
Guest and daughter of the host who shares personal experiences and lessons from a recent breakup, offering insights on anxious-avoidant attachment, healing, and emotional growth in her twenties.
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Mar 31, 2026 • 31min
They Said All the Right Things (and Nothing Changed): The Anxious-Avoidant Trap w/Mackie Overbay
Mackie Overbay, daughter of the host who recently navigated a painful breakup, shares candid lessons from her twenties. The conversation unpacks “mouth sounds” — persuasive words without follow-through. They explore anxious-avoidant attachment, why familiar pain feels like love, the power of consideration, and Mackie’s breakup playbook: feel it, trust impermanence, and choose yourself over settling.
