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Karoun Demirjian

Breaking news reporter for The New York Times. She covers developments in Washington and explains the operational fallout of the Department of Homeland Security shutdown in this episode.

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Mar 26, 2026 • 29min

The Airport Meltdown

For the past week, travelers flying across the United States have waited in security lines that snaked through airports and parking lots as Transportation Security Administration officers called out of work because of a partial government shutdown. Karoun Demirjian, a breaking news reporter for the The New York Times, explains what has led to the extraordinary delays, and Michael Gold, a congressional correspondent for The Times, discusses the negotiations in Congress to bring an end to the crisis. Guest: Karoun Demirjian, a breaking news reporter for the The New York Times. Michael Gold, a congressional correspondent for The New York Times. Background reading:  Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have arrived at airports. Many lines are still long. Talks to reopen the Department of Homeland Security hit a snag as Democrats demanded ICE restrictions. Photo: Antranik Tavitian/Reuters For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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