
Karen Tumlin
Founder and director of the Justice Action Center and longtime immigration advocate and attorney, providing legal and policy context about ICE practices and litigation described in the episode.
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Apr 11, 2026 • 12min
‘The Pitt’ Star Ned Brower Knew the ICE Episode Was Important (w/ Ned Brower & Karen Tulin)
Karen Tumlin, founder of the Justice Action Center and immigration attorney, and Ned Brower, actor and practicing nurse/EMT, discuss ICE showing up in hospitals. They cover the policy shift ending sensitive-location protections. They explore healthcare workers' reactions, storytelling's impact on public empathy, and practical ways communities can support affected families.


