

Joel de la Garza
Security and risk leader (acting CISO in the conversation) with expertise in systems security and product-risk tradeoffs; provided security-focused analysis of agent risks, identity, and containment strategies for OpenClaw.
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Mar 19, 2026 • 47min
OpenClaw: Why the Internet Isn't Built for AI Agents
Guido Appenzeller, a systems-focused product thinker; Joel de la Garza, a security and risk leader; and Yoko Li, an open-source builder of personal AI assistants. They dig into OpenClaw integrations and long-running agent use cases. They talk about a seven-hour Gmail setup, agents requesting broad permissions, why consumer sites resist agent-friendly interfaces, and strategies for identity, authorization, and containment.


