James Bullen
Senior producer and reporter responsible for the episode's reporting and production, discussing the Challenger and related investigations and providing narrative context.
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Feb 14, 2026 • 35min
Can 'normalisation of deviance' help to explain a catastrophe?
Professor Sidney Dekker, expert on safety in complex systems, and Dr Nejc Sedlar, psychology researcher on normalization of deviance, join James Bullen, senior producer who recounts Challenger and other disasters. They unpack how small accepted shortcuts become normal, where this shows up in high-risk fields, and what organizational habits and pressures allow dangerous drift toward catastrophe.
