
Hong Li
Professor at the Communication University of China specializing in Chinese traditional culture and ancient philosophy, who provides expert interpretation of Zhuangzi's life and ideas in this episode.
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Feb 16, 2026 • 24min
Encountering Zhuangzi for the first time
Hong Li, a professor of Chinese traditional culture and ancient philosophy, offers a concise expert view of Zhuangzi. He explores who Zhuangzi was, his playful literary style, and stories like the Butterfly Dream and Kun and Peng. Conversations touch on freedom, identity, limits, and how these tales relate to modern ideas of success and engagement.


