Heather Roth
Senior research scientist at the Center for Naval Analyses and primary author of the Department of Defense's 2020 AI ethics principles, discussing Pentagon AI use and ethics.
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Mar 2, 2026 • 35min
Why the Pentagon wants AI without guardrails
Heather Roth, a DOD AI ethics researcher who helped write the Pentagon’s 2020 AI principles, and Stephen Levy, longtime Wired technology journalist, discuss the Anthropic–Pentagon dispute. They explore how the Pentagon uses generative AI in strikes and surveillance. They debate safety-first limits, supply-chain designations, legal lines around domestic surveillance, and where autonomy in weapons becomes dangerous.
