Li Zhou, a Vox journalist, discusses the challenges hampering President Biden's infrastructure plans, emphasizing the complexity of bipartisan negotiations. Gray Brecken, a scholar from the Living New Deal Project at UC Berkeley, provides historical context, linking today’s struggles to the transformative impacts of Roosevelt's New Deal. Together, they explore how collective memory influences infrastructure debates and the urgency of upgrading aging projects, such as the Hoover Dam, amid climate change challenges.