

Garrett Graff
Journalist and author of Raven Rock, who provides historical context on FEMA's origins and continuity-of-government planning during interviews in the episode.
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May 1, 2026 • 52min
American Emergency: The Movement to Kill FEMA
Leo Bosner, a retired FEMA official and flood insurance specialist, and Garrett Graff, a journalist and author on continuity-of-government, unpack FEMA’s strange Cold War origins and secret continuity plans. They discuss how secrecy birthed FEMA-camp conspiracies. They also trace reforms that professionalized disaster response and recent controversies over funding for detention facilities.


