Eve Bodnia
Founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence with a background in theoretical physics and quantum information; leads development of Kona, an energy-based model approach to AI focused on spatial reasoning, planning, and safe, token-free architectures.
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Feb 10, 2026 • 56min
Why Energy-Based Models Could Be the Next Big Shift in AI
Eve Bodnia, founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence and former theoretical physicist, builds Kona: an energy-based, token-free approach to AI. She explores energy landscapes for non-linguistic reasoning. Short takes cover spatial planning, robotics control without language, reducing hallucinations via constraints, and how EBMs might integrate with large language models.
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Feb 24, 2026 • 1h 8min
Everyone Is Betting on Bigger LLMs. She's Betting They're Fundamentally Wrong. (Eve Bodnia, Founder & CEO of Logical Intelligence)
Eve Bodnia, founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence and former theoretical physicist, builds energy-based reasoning models like Kona. She discusses why LLMs may only pattern-match, how EBMs reason in latent space, a $4 vs $15,000 cost comparison, surprising extrapolation at 16M parameters, and why mission-critical systems need rule-based reasoning rather than probabilistic guessing.
