Oliver Millman, environment correspondent for The Guardian US, and Ella Nilsson, senior climate reporter for CNN, delve into China's surprising role in the climate crisis. They discuss how China is the world's largest polluter yet leads in renewable energy initiatives. The conversation highlights China’s ambitious projects like the Solar Great Wall, juxtaposed with ethical concerns regarding labor practices. Additionally, they tackle the implications of shifting U.S. climate policies and what it means for global leadership in the clean energy transition.
