Deana Heath, an academic specializing in Indian and colonial history, discusses her book on the centrality of torture to British colonial rule in India. She reveals how Indian police, often acting on behalf of British authorities, engaged in systematic violence to uphold state power. The conversation explores the unique structure of colonial governance, contrasting it with Mughal rule, and delves into the moral complexities of policing, the horrific biopolitical policies during famines, and the tangled legacy of these practices that persist in modern India.