Callum Williams, a Senior economics writer at The Economist, and David Rennie, Beijing bureau chief for The Economist, dive into the challenges of the global housing crisis. They reveal how high housing costs lead to economic woes and societal issues, questioning the adoration of home ownership. The conversation also shifts to the revival of Mazu worship in China, exploring its intersection with politics and cultural identity. Additionally, they address changing attitudes toward drinking, spotlighting a growing trend of sobriety among younger generations.