In this engaging conversation, Betty Milan, a Lacanian psychoanalyst and writer, shares her unique experience of being analyzed by Jacques Lacan in the 1970s. She discusses her memoir, Why Lacan, shedding light on Lacan's unconventional clinical techniques and their impact on her work. Milan delves into her play Goodbye Doctor, exploring themes of motherhood and desire. The learning from Lacanian theory is woven into Brazilian culture, emphasizing the significance of carnival in collective memory. Milan also touches on her current projects, including writing that addresses climate issues.