
Alan Lightman and Martin Rees
Two physicists presenting ideas from The Shape of Wonder about how scientists think, work, and live; the segment features their joint reflections on science, wonder, and the human side of research.
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Apr 2, 2026 • 31min
Why It’s Dangerous to Be Right Too Soon
Alan Lightman and Martin Rees, two physicists reflecting on science, work, and wonder, and Matt Kaplan, an Economist science correspondent who chronicles scientists punished for being right. They discuss silenced researchers during COVID, Semmelweis and handwashing, Karikó’s mRNA struggle, fraud and retractions, and the human, messy side of discovery.


