Trump FIRES Bondi, CIA's "MK Ultra" History, and "Two Weeks" Talking Point, with John Kiriakou, Sean Davis, and Sohrab Ahmari | Ep. 1287

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Apr 2, 2026

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Sohrab Ahmari, UnHerd U.S. editor and cultural commentator. Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist and conservative policy analyst. John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and whistleblower. They discuss possible firings in the administration, tensions over Iran and the “two to three weeks” talking point, CIA history including MK Ultra, intelligence oversight, and Israel’s influence on U.S. agencies.

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CIA Recruited Through Academic Covers

Kiriakou recounts being recruited at GW by a professor who was actually CIA, showing covert recruiting in academic settings.
He joined Political Psychology Division, became Saddam Hussein's biographer, then shifted to counterterrorism.

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Family Strain And Evacuation After Threats In Greece

Kiriakou describes how his son's remark about 'Uncle Stelios' exposed his wife's infidelity and led to a divorce amid safety evacuations after 17 November threats.
The station evacuated his family when a manifesto named him, ending that marriage.

INSIGHT

Targeted Killings Of Americans Highlight Legal Crisis

Kiriakou asserts U.S. targeted and killed American citizens like Anwar al-Awlaki without trial, raising rule-of-law concerns.
He frames this as a choice between being a nation of laws or not, urging policy clarity.

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist, and Sohrab Ahmari, U.S. Editor of UnHerd, to discuss reports that President Trump is about to fire Attorney General Pam Bondi, Bondi's challenges in handling the Epstein Files, Trump's reported frustration with the lack of prosecutions from the DOJ, reports Trump is considering firing DNI Tulsi Gabbard over her position on Iran, why Megyn hopes Gabbard doesn't leave, the implications for the coalition Trump built in 2024 if Gabbard leaves, and more. Then John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer, joins to discuss the “two to three weeks” talking point that President Trump and Lindsey Graham are pushing about the Iran war, what really happens next with the war, the CIA’s “MK Ultra” origin story, the secrets of the CIA and FBI, why conspiracy theories are growing in a post-COVID world, how Israel tries to recruit CIA operatives, the influence Israel has on both Democrats and the GOP in Congress, how he got recruited into the CIA, the challenges of balancing marriages and relationships in covert CIA roles, and more.

Davis- https://thefederalist.com/

Ahmari- https://unherd.com/

Kiriakou- https://johnkiriakou.com/

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