The Pocket with Chris Griffin #121: A Raw Chat with Michael Smoak
Jan 23, 2026
Michael Smoak, wellness coach and founder of Higherup Wellness, returns to share raw reflections. They talk about online judgment, the copycat trap in masculinity, and training consistency. Michael opens up about grief, growth after his father’s death, and killing old identities. Conversations push toward audacity, becoming undeniable, and leaning into fear to evolve.
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Hardship Refines Character
- Deep trials forge perseverance, faith, and emotional growth that comforts you later.
- Michael Smoak compares sanctification to refining silver by putting feet in the fire to produce resilience.
Ask Audaciously, Lean Into Fear
- Make audacious asks even if you feel unworthy, because asking creates opportunity.
- Lean into fear: where your fear is, there your task is, and growth lives beyond it.
Turn No Into Future Exposure
- Start by contacting the right person or team when pursuing big opportunities.
- Treat a 'no' as temporary exposure; keep leveling up so they see you again later.