The Open Compute Project Podcast Solving Data Center Demands: Australia's Macquarie and OCP
Jan 1, 2026
David Hirst, CEO of Macquarie Data Centres, shares insights from his extensive background in building AI-focused infrastructure. He explores how Australia's unique market influences data center design and operations. Topics include the shift from traditional real estate to innovative 'chip-out' designs, the critical need for collaboration among hyperscalers and suppliers, and the rise of liquid cooling technologies. Hirst emphasizes the importance of data sovereignty and compliance in shaping AI infrastructure, providing a fascinating perspective on the future of data centers.
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Chip-Out Thinking Replaces Real Estate Mindset
- AI design shifts data centers from 'real estate' thinking to 'chip-out' engineering focused on power and cooling.
- AI workloads are bursty and unpredictable, requiring new behavioral considerations beyond density alone.
Engage Customers Early And Build Flexibility
- Collaborate early with customers, hyperscalers, and suppliers to handle lead times and blurred demarcation points.
- Build flexible halls to accept different temperature set points and direct-to-chip liquid cooling options.
Island Geography And Multi‑Tier Regulation Matter
- Australia's island geography and three-tier government make timelines and approvals slower and more complex.
- Close relationships with state, local governments and utilities are essential to deliver on time and budget.