511. Pastors With Day Jobs: Serving as a Volunteer Elder

What does it look like to pastor a church while holding a full-time job?

In this episode of To Be the Church, Andrew sits down with Gavin Hesse, a longtime marketplace elder at Northwest Gospel Church. Gavin works in the automotive electronics industry by day, but also serves as a volunteer elder—shepherding congregants, helping lead the church, and sharing in the weight of pastoral ministry without being paid staff.

This conversation explores the beauty of biblical plurality, the partnership between staff and volunteer elders, and why the local church needs faithful men willing to shepherd God’s people—even while working a day job.

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