
Pastor to Pastor with Dave Stone Leading from the Second Chair with Tim Winters
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Jul 1, 2025 Tim Winters, the Executive Pastor at Shepherd of the Hills Church, shares his 33 years of insights on leading from the second chair. He discusses the dynamics of church leadership, emphasizing adaptability and communication. Tim highlights the importance of diversity in ministry and the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic. He outlines the four pillars of effective second chair leadership: loyalty, trust, humility, and ability. Personal stories illustrate the fragility of life, reminding us to cherish relationships and community.
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True Loyalty Explained
- Loyalty means giving your honest opinion, whether the leader likes it or not.
- Once a decision is made, back it completely and support it like a yes man.
Safe Truth-Sharing Environment
- Lead pastors must create safe environments for associates to share truth without fear of retaliation.
- Shooting the messenger stops important messages from reaching the senior pastor, harming leadership.
Avoid Ambition Sabotage
- Second chair leaders should not desire the lead pastor role as it sabotages their effectiveness.
- Embrace your position behind the scenes instead of viewing it as a stepping stone.





