Adventures Through The Mind All About DMTx (extended-state DMT) | Hayley and Kevin of Dream Mind Labs - ATTMind Podcast 206
This episode is going to be a deep dive into extended-state dimethyltryptamine, otherwise known as DMTx.
Our guests for this episode are Hayley Mann and Kevin Thorbahn, who run Dream Mind Labs one of only a handful of places in the world where DMTx is available outside of clinical trials.
They are on the show to talk about:
🧬 What DMTx is and how it works 🌀 What people experience during a DMTx session 🙋 Why people choose to undergo the experience ⏱️ How long people stay in for 💡 What people get out of the experience 🏥 Where DMTx may fit in the growing psychedelic medical and personal use landscape ⚖️ The legal situation in Colorado that allows them to legally run Dream Mind Labs ⚠️ The dangers present in undergoing DMTx 👽 The nearly universal experience of encountering and communicating with entities or aliens 🔫 The "DMT laser thing" 🎵 The role of music and sound during a DMTx session 🤯 Some of the weirder things they have experienced as facilitators
This was a super interesting interview for me, and I found Haley and Kevin very easy and joyful to talk with. It was easily one of the most at-ease and "myself" I have felt in an interview in a long time, and I look forward to sharing it with you now.
Enjoy!
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Episode Breakdown
- (00:00) Ad (Amentara)
- (00:36) Opening
- (04:46) Interview Begins
- (04:55) The legality of DMTx and other psychedelics in Colorado
- (11:04) DMTx, what it is and how it works
- (16:33) How long people stay in the DMT experience
- (18:00) The level of intensity people go into
- (20:27) How participants communicate their needs during their infusion
- (21:57) Dose complexities and time in peak dose
- (24:46) How Kevin and Haley got into providing DMTx
- (33:19) Why people chose to explore DMTx
- (39:33) Ad (Amentara)
- (41:26) Reported benefits from DMTx
- (46:50) Spontaneous healing through DMTx?
- (52:04) The "DMT Laser Thing"
- (57:25) The variety of experience
- (1:01:00) The use and presence of sound and music during a DTMx experience
- (1:05:47) No Glossolalia (yet)
- (1:07:19) The strange things that happen for the facilitators
- (1:13:41) Patreon thanks
- (1:16:01) The bio-medical risks of DTMx
- (1:22:50) The psychological risks of DMTx, short- and long-term
- (1:26:38) Potential future clinical uses of DMTx
- (1:29:24) Integration and aftercare protocols
- (1:31:46) Ongoing data collection and future research ideas
- (1:34:44) A wondering about weight-based dosing
- (1:36:57) Future hopes and concerns about DTMx
- (1:42:53) Follow-up links and contact details
- (1:44:44) Outro