The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant Brené with Jon Meacham on the Soul of America
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Nov 2, 2020 
Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Jon Meacham discusses leading through crises, humility, and the struggle between humanity's noble and darker instincts. They touch on the relevance of historical lessons in leadership and the importance of storytelling in shaping societies.
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Learning from Past Crises
- Comparing current struggles to the past provides valuable context.
- Avoid the "narcissism of the present" by acknowledging past hardships.
FDR's Leadership During the Depression
- During the Great Depression, FDR emphasized commonalities.
- He promoted unity rather than exploiting divisions.
Importance of Candor
- Candor and honesty in leadership build trust.
- Leaders should be truthful with the public, especially during crises.