Grady Booch, IBM Fellow and co-creator of UML, reflects on decades of software engineering work. He discusses the history and three golden ages of software, how AI tools fit into platform-era abstraction, and why human judgment, responsibility, and review practices remain essential as machines begin writing code alongside people.
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Retirement Projects: Documentary And Books
Grady Booch described working on a Cosmos-style documentary and books after retiring from IBM.
His projects explore computing history and what it means to be human in the age of computers.
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Third Golden Age: Systems Over Algorithms
We are in the third golden age of software driven by platforms and system-scale composition.
Architecture now focuses on weaving services, libraries and SaaS rather than just algorithms or objects.
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Architecture Is Significant Design
All architecture is design but only some design decisions are architectural because they're measured by cost of change.
Architecture captures the significant, load-bearing decisions that shape form and function of a system.
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AI coding assistants promise speed, but what do they mean for quality, trust, and the architect’s craft? In this inaugural episode of Next Gen Architecture Playbook, Shweta Vohra and Grady Booch explore a principled view of how architecture must evolve when machines begin writing code alongside humans. They unpack the third golden age of software engineering, where productivity gains are real, where the risks lie, and how architects can design review gates and practices that preserve long term integrity.
Drawing on decades of experience across the history of software engineering, the conversation goes beyond hype to examine what should remain firmly human in an AI augmented world, and why architectural judgement, responsibility, and creative thinking matter more now, than ever.
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