The Bulwark Podcast Ro Khanna: Trump Is in Denial
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Mar 18, 2026 
Ro Khanna, U.S. Representative from California focused on technology policy and high-profile oversight, discusses the push for transparency on Epstein files. He tackles U.S. strategy toward Iran, the politics around oil prices and the Strait of Hormuz. He also reflects on shifting MAGA support for war, debates over Israel criticism, and proposals for AI policy and worker ownership.
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How Khanna And Massey Built The Epstein Coalition
- Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey started the Epstein files push despite colleagues calling it conspiratorial and risking their reputations.
- They built a coalition across 70–80 Republicans, hid Khanna's role early by calling it the Massey-Khanna bill, and forced mass document release and votes.
Key Gaps The Bondi Deposition Must Explain
- Khanna says Pam Bondi's deposition should reveal why FBI redacted and scrubbed files and why three million files remain protected.
- He highlights missing investigations into figures like Les Wexner and Leon Black and withheld witness interviews mentioning Donald Trump.
Released Files But No Investigations
- Khanna emphasizes there's been almost no investigations into people named in the files, not just prosecutions.
- He questions why investigators haven't interviewed figures like Bill Gates given the correspondence in the records.