The Pomp Podcast Bitcoin Is Just Getting Started (Most People Don’t See It Yet) | Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, & Bill Miller IV
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Mar 4, 2026 
Bill Miller IV, seasoned investment manager, weighs Bitcoin as long-term capital governance. Russell Okung, NFL player and Bitcoin advocate, shares why he took salary in Bitcoin and promotes sovereignty. Natalie Brunell, journalist and educator, frames Bitcoin through immigrant-family resilience and freedom. They discuss adoption, institutions watching, self-custody, criticisms, and why many still do not see the trend.
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Athlete Turned Bitcoiner To Protect Family Wealth
- Russell Okung chose Bitcoin after realizing many athletes face a high probability of financial ruin despite large paydays.
- He credited a podcast line “Bitcoin is time,” bought self-custody BTC, and used it to change his family's long-term trajectory.
Immigrant Family Story Shaped Bitcoin Conviction
- Natalie Brunell framed Bitcoin through her immigrant parents' experience of losing savings under unstable systems and the 2008 crisis.
- She says Bitcoin fixes broken incentives, rewards value, and functions as portable, non-physical freedom money unlike gold.
Bitcoin As Superior Capital Governance
- Bill Miller argues Bitcoin is a superior form of capital because it's more verifiable, scarce, auditable, and harder to steal than gold.
- He views adoption as a multi-decade trend, comparing slow water infrastructure adoption to Bitcoin's path.