In this episode Michael spoke with Hillary Angelo, a professor of sociology at the University of California, Santa Cruz. Hillary is an historical sociologist who focuses on the relationship between the environment and large-scale transformations in urban contexts. They discussed Hillary's recent book "How Green Became Good: Urbanized Nature and the Making of Cities and Citizens."
Hillary's website: http://www.hillaryangelo.com/
Video that Michael mentions in the conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txg-bPHZBV4&t=2698s
