Jason Levin is the CEO and founder of Memelord, an AI-powered meme creation platform that helps brands and individuals create contextual, trending memes. He started Memelord as a $6.90-per-month newsletter sending subscribers to a Google Slides deck, grew it to $100K ARR on Bubble without hiring engineers, then raised $3M to build it into an API-first product.
What you’ll learn:
- How Jason grew Memelord from a $6.90/month newsletter to $100K ARR without writing a single line of code
- Why “no UX is the best UX” and how agents are becoming Memelord’s primary users
- The mandatory vibe-coding rule for his marketing team and how it unlocks unprecedented creativity
- Why free tools are the new PDF downloads and how they’ve generated hundreds of thousands of emails
- Jason’s hardware hacking projects, including a bedside keyboard that creates Linear tickets without waking his wife
- Why AI can be funny (but humans are still funnier) and which model is the funniest
- The philosophy of building hyper-personalized software just for yourself
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Jason Levin and Memelord
(04:28) Demo: Agentic meme creation with OpenClaw
(06:55) “No UX is the best UX”—building for an agent-first future
(08:35) How Memelord started as a $6.90 newsletter with Google Slides
(12:35) Building to $100K ARR on Bubble with 395 workflows
(15:20) Demo: Free tools section that generates hundreds of thousands of emails
(17:59) Why Cursor is perfect for non-technical founders
(20:20) Let your marketers cook—or watch them leave
(24:19) Commit graph that shows the vibe-coding inflection point
(25:25) Tools: Claude, Gemini, Linear, PostHog
(28:19) Build weird stuff in the real world
(33:24) Creative AI use cases
(39:56) Using OpenClaw for calendar analysis
(43:37) Can AI be funny? Which model is funniest?
(45:26) Memes are not slop
(46:45) What Jason doesn’t use AI for
(48:12) Final thoughts
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Blog & detailed workflow walkthroughs from this episode:
How I AI: Jason Levin’s Workflows for Agentic Memes, Vibe Coding, and Hardware Hacking: https://www.chatprd.ai/how-i-ai/jason-levins-workflows-for-agentic-memes-vibe-coding-and-hardware-hacking
↳ Build a Custom Bedside Keyboard for Idea Capture with Raspberry Pi and ChatGPT: https://www.chatprd.ai/how-i-ai/workflows/build-a-custom-bedside-keyboard-for-idea-capture-with-raspberry-pi-and-chatgpt
↳ Build Free Marketing Tools as Lead Magnets Using AI Code Assistants: https://www.chatprd.ai/how-i-ai/workflows/build-free-marketing-tools-as-lead-magnets-using-ai-code-assistants
↳ Automate Meme Marketing with an AI Agent and OpenClaw: https://www.chatprd.ai/how-i-ai/workflows/automate-meme-marketing-with-an-ai-agent-and-openclaw
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Tools referenced:
• Memelord API: https://memelord.com/api
• Cursor: https://cursor.com/
• Bubble: https://bubble.io/
• OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/
• Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
• Grok: https://grok.x.ai/
• Linear: https://linear.app/
• PostHog: https://posthog.com/
• Zapier: https://zapier.com/
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Other references:
• Diego Zaks—“The best UX is no UX”: https://x.com/diegozaks/status/1966526522136649980
• Sam Lessin: https://wlessin.com/
• “Stop giving me advice”: https://stopgivingmeadvice.com
• Memelord free tools: https://memelord.com/tools
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Where to find Jason Levin:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamjasonlevin
Instagram: https://instagram.com/iamjasonlevin
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjasonlevin/
Memelord: https://memelord.com
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