What do electric shocks, shame sermons, and fake science have in common? They were all used to “pray the gay away.” We’re diving into the twisted world of conversion therapy with survivor and scholar Lucas Wilson. From evangelical trauma to the ex-gay movement’s most delulu masc villains, we’re unpacking the pseudoscience, propaganda, and lifelong scars of this deadly practice, and how survivors are reclaiming their stories.

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00:00 Intro
01:46 Did you grow up religious?
08:23 being gay AND christian?
19:03 Discovering conversion therapy
35:40 The indoctrination is strong
44:14 The science is clear
57:36 Should DL folks be outed?
01:02:49 But the bible says
01:07:11 rejecting religion's teachings
01:10:53 The long term harm

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