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[ENCORE EPISODE] Coleman Barks: Rumi, Grace, and Human Friendship

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Mar 5, 2026
Coleman Barks, celebrated translator of 13th-century mystic Rumi and longtime student of Sufism, reflects on translation, grace, and friendship. He describes entering a trance to render Rumi into American free verse. He explores the transformative bond between Rumi and Shams, the spiritual atmosphere of friendship, and collaborating with cellist David Darling on Rumi-inspired music.
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INSIGHT

Translation As Trance And Rephrasing

  • Coleman Barks enters a trance-like state to translate Rumi, focusing on feeling the spiritual information behind scholarly translations.
  • He then renders that feeling into American free verse influenced by Whitman, treating images as the poem's engine.
INSIGHT

Ghazals As Cascading Psychic Images

  • Rumi's ghazals work as cascading images that map psychic processes like surrender and disappearance into love.
  • Coleman avoids inventing images, preferring to expand the poet's own imagery rather than replace it.
ANECDOTE

Dream Meeting With Guru Bawa

  • Coleman first met his Sufi teacher Bawa Muhayyadin after a lucid dream in which a ball of light declared I love you.
  • A year and a half later he recognized the man in Philadelphia and the teacher confirmed the roomy work had to be done.
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