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David Pogue on Apple’s Suprising Past and AI Future

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Mar 15, 2026
David Pogue, veteran tech journalist and author of Apple: The First 50 Years, joins to explore Apple’s surprising past and future. He recounts Apple’s obsessive product testing and Jobs’ ruthless product cuts. He examines Tim Cook’s scaling, debates whether Apple still innovates, and highlights AI, Siri, Vision Pro, and medical potential for Watch and AirPods.
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How Apple Trained Watch Health Sensors

  • Apple used VO2 backpacks and staged fake apartments to collect real blood-oxygen and activity data for Apple Watch development.
  • Engineers ran participants through everyday activities wearing masks to train algorithms that map wrist sensors to sleep and blood-oxygen metrics.
ANECDOTE

Face ID Was Defeated By Decapitated Heads During Testing

  • Apple extensively tested Face ID with Makeup Mondays, Harley Davidson rallies, twin conferences, and Hollywood prosthetic masks.
  • They even hired special-effects companies to create 3D latex heads to ensure Face ID couldn't be fooled by realistic masks.
INSIGHT

Jobs' Product Focus Rescued Apple

  • Steve Jobs cut Apple's bloated product line to four focus products, reallocating top engineers to deeply refine each product.
  • That ruthless simplification paired with CFO Fred Anderson's financial fixes pulled Apple back from near-bankruptcy.
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