You might know Matt Okine as the funny guy who makes up one half of Matt and Alex’s All Day Breakfast. He is also an author, actor and former Triple J presenter.

In this chat with Jamila Rizvi, Matt shows more of his thoughtful and sensitive side, speaking about everything from his experience of racism, growing up without his mum and challenges of becoming a parent.

Plus he tells Jamila an amazing story about how he's caught the matrix three times.

THE WEEKEND LIST with Linda Marigliano:

Listen: 30 by Adele

Watch: Maid on Netflix

Watch: Blue Bayou in cinemas

See: Moulin Rouge at Regent Theatre

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The time Matt Okine caught the matrix out