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The Iran War Expert: I Simulated The Iran War for 20 Years. Here’s What Happens Next

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Mar 12, 2026
Robert Pape, political scientist who has advised multiple White Houses on air power, explains his 20 years of Iran war simulations. He outlines the three-stage escalation trap and how precision bombing can create strategic failure. He warns about unknown enriched uranium locations, the high chance of limited U.S. ground deployments, and the wider geopolitical gains this could give rivals like China.
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The Real Problem Is Missing Nuclear Material

  • The central failure is ignorance of dispersed enriched uranium; striking facilities doesn't guarantee removal of bomb-grade material.
  • Pape highlights satellite imagery of trucks moving tanks two days before Fordow as evidence Iran likely dispersed material.

Regime Decapitation Often Produces Harder Successors

  • Revolutionary regimes are matrix-like and adapt when leaders are removed, so decapitation often hardens the regime.
  • Pape notes killing a supreme leader can eliminate moderating fatwas and empower more aggressive replacements.

Killing The Supreme Leader Removed Nuclear Guardrails

  • The killed supreme leader had two fatwas opposing nuclear weapons; his death removed a key religious constraint.
  • Pape warns the new leader lacks those guardrails and is known as far more aggressive toward protesters and adversaries.
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