The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

How to Make Money... What We Learned from the Most Successful People in the World

Jan 29, 2026
They unpack lessons from top career playbooks, like using in-person meetings to close deals and screening for kindness when hiring. They talk about office energy, small delights that boost morale, and how appearance and routines impact confidence. They also discuss creating a style uniform, prepping for your future self, and priorities for scaling a product and team in 2026.
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ADVICE

Always Prefer In-Person For Negotiation

  • Meet people in person when you want something because it's much harder for them to say no face-to-face.
  • If you need to avoid pressure, move negotiation to email and loop in your team to handle the reply.
INSIGHT

Niceness Is A Business Filter

  • Phoebe learned that you do business with people you like, so niceness matters as much as talent.
  • Working with rude or disrespectful people is a nonstarter because it harms long-term collaboration.
ADVICE

Vet For Niceness, Not Just Skill

  • Screen candidates for niceness by giving them hypothetical conflicts and asking how they'd respond.
  • Reject brilliant people who are destructive in hard situations because one bad apple ruins culture.
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