President Biden ran on a promise to forgive $10,000 in student loans back in 2020—but so far, there hasn’t been much movement on that front. Between the pros, the cons, and the politics, one thing is clear: fixing higher education will take more than an executive order.

Guest: Jordan Weissmann, writer and editor focused on economics, public policy, and politics at Slate.

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