
Arts & Ideas The end of civilisations and societies
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Nov 7, 2025 Guests Luke Kemp, a researcher on existential risks, and Peter Hitchens, a conservative journalist, share insights on societal collapse's past and future implications. They explore real human responses to disasters, contrasting chaos with acts of collective kindness. Neville Morley discusses historical perspectives, while Phil Tinline analyzes the impact of fear on politics. Rhiannon Firth highlights grassroots movements like Occupy Sandy, emphasizing that crises reveal systemic inequalities. The group debates whether today's challenges are unique and the role of technology in escalation.
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Collapse As Power Restructuring
- Luke Kemp said collapses restructure power with winners and losers, creating both harms and opportunities.
Fictional Anarchist Experiment
- Rhiannon Firth referenced Ursula Le Guin's The Dispossessed showing an imperfect anarchist society after Earth collapse.
Debt Makes Modern Systems Fragile
- Peter Hitchens warned that extreme public and private debt makes the economy fragile and could trigger serious breakdown if money loses value.















